Nasty summation + derivative help

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of simplifying the expression involving the summation of two functions, f(r) and g(r), with a common constant a. It is mentioned that the derivative of f(r) is incorrect and the correct form is 2(a-r)e^{-(a-r)^2}. It is then questioned whether the summation of f'(r) and f(r) can be simplified, but it is brought up that f'(r) can only exist if r is a continuous variable.
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exmachina
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Edit: LOTS OF TYPOS (sorry guys)

Let:

[tex] f(r) = e^{-(a-r)^2} [/tex]
[tex] g(r) = r e^{-(a-r)^2} [/tex]

Where a is some constant

Can:

[tex]
\dfrac{ \sum\limits^{r=\infty}_{r=-\infty} g(r) } {\sum\limits^{r=\infty}_{r=-\infty} f(r) }
[/tex]

Be simplified?
 
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  • #2
Isn't it obvious?
 
  • #3
Yes, look at the differences between f(r) and f'(r)
 
  • #4
exmachina said:
Let:

[tex] f(r) = e^{-(a-r)^2} [/tex]
[tex] f'(r) = 2e^{-(a-r)^2} [/tex]
This is incorrect. If [itex]f(r)= e^{-(a- r)^2}[/itex] then [itex]f'(r)= e^{-(a-r)^2}[-2(a- r)(-1)]= 2(a-r)e^{-(a-r)^2}[/itex].

Where a is some constant

Can:

[tex]
\dfrac{ \sum\limits^{r=\infty}_{r=-\infty} f'(r) } { \sum\limits^{r=\infty}_{r=-\infty} f(r) }
[/tex]

Be simplified?
In order that [itex]f'(r)[/itex] exist, r must be a continuous variable. If r is not discrete, what does "[itex]\sum_{r=-\infty}^{r=\infty}f(r)[/itex]" mean?
 
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Sorry I was way too sloppy in my original post, I have since updated it, I had forgotten an r term.
 
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double post sorry
 
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