Method of undertermined coefficients (IVP)

No, it doesn't affect your calculation, but it's incorrect notation. Just remember that when you have something like te^t, it's just one term.
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Homework Statement



Find the solution of the given initial value problem.

[itex]\[y''-2y'-3y=3te^{2t}\][/itex]

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

(1) the homogenous solution is given by
[itex]\[y_{h}=c_{1}e^{3t}+c_{2}e^{-t}\][/itex]

(2) the particular solution is in the form
[itex]\[y_{p}=(At+B)e^{2t}\][/itex]

(3) The first and second derivatives are then, respectively
[itex]\[y'_{p}=Ae^{2t}+2Ate^{2t}+2Be^{2t}\][/itex]
[itex]\[y''_{p}=2Ae^{2t}+2Ae^{2t}+4Ate^{2t}+4Be^{2t}\][/itex]

(3) substitutions and line up
[itex]\[y''_{p}=2Ae^{2t}+2Ae^{2t}+4Ate^{2t}+4Be^{2t}\][/itex]
[itex]\[-2y'_{p}=-2Ae^{2t}-4Ate^{2t}-4Be^{2t}\][/itex]
[itex]\[-3y_{p}=-3Ate^{2t}-3Be^{2t}\][/itex]

(4) combine like terms
[itex]\[te^{t}\left [ 4A-4A-3A \right ]=1
\][/itex]
[itex]\[e^{t}\left [ 4A+4B-2A-4B-3B \right ]=0\]
[/itex]

(5) I got A = -1/3
but this is wrong.
According to the book, Ate^{2t) has a leading coefficient of -1.
However, coincidentally, my B is 2/3, while the book gives -2/3.

The complete solution to this problem with the given IV is
[itex]y=e^{3t}+(2/3)e^{-t}-(2/3)e^{2t}-te^{2t}[/itex]

I have been working on this and other problems for hours and apparently I have been getting many answers... but I have been checking and redoing. Has anyone catch my mistake yet?

Thank you very much!
 
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  • #2
Fixed latex. You have to include everything in [t e x]...[/t e x]-boxes (without spaces) to make it work.

jwxie said:

Homework Statement



Find the solution of the given initial value problem.

[tex]y''-2y'-3y=3te^{2t}[/tex]


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution




(1) the homogenous solution is given by
[tex]y_{h}=c_{1}e^{3t}+c_{2}e^{-t}[/tex]

(2) the particular solution is in the form
[tex]y_{p}=(At+B)e^{2t}[/tex]

(3) The first and second derivatives are then, respectively
[tex]y'_{p}=Ae^{2t}+2Ate^{2t}+2Be^{2t}[/tex]
[tex]y''_{p}=2Ae^{2t}+2Ae^{2t}+4Ate^{2t}+4Be^{2t}[/tex]

(3) substitutions and line up
[tex]y''_{p}=2Ae^{2t}+2Ae^{2t}+4Ate^{2t}+4Be^{2t}[/tex]
[tex]-2y'_{p}=-2Ae^{2t}-4Ate^{2t}-4Be^{2t}[/tex]
[tex]-3y_{p}=-3Ate^{2t}-3Be^{2t}[/tex]

(4) combine like terms
[tex]te^{t}(4A-4A-3A)=1[/tex]
[tex]e^{t}( 4A+4B-2A-4B-3B)=0[/tex]

(5) I got A = -1/3
but this is wrong.
According to the book, Ate^{2t) has a leading coefficient of -1.
However, coincidentally, my B is 2/3, while the book gives -2/3.

The complete solution to this problem with the given IV is
[tex]y=e^{3t}+(2/3)e^{-t}-(2/3)e^{2t}-te^{2t}[/tex]

I have been working on this and other problems for hours and apparently I have been getting many answers... but I have been checking and redoing. Has anyone catch my mistake yet?

Thank you very much!
 
  • #3
jwxie said:

Homework Statement



Find the solution of the given initial value problem.

[tex]y''-2y'-3y=3te^{2t}[/tex]
(1) the homogenous solution is given by
[tex]y_{h}=c_{1}e^{3t}+c_{2}e^{-t}[/tex]

(2) the particular solution is in the form
[tex]y_{p}=(At+B)e^{2t}[/tex]

(3) The first and second derivatives are then, respectively
[tex]y'_{p}=Ae^{2t}+2Ate^{2t}+2Be^{2t}[/tex]
[tex]y''_{p}=2Ae^{2t}+2Ae^{2t}+4Ate^{2t}+4Be^{2t}[/tex]

(3) substitutions and line up
[tex]y''_{p}=2Ae^{2t}+2Ae^{2t}+4Ate^{2t}+4Be^{2t}[/tex]
[tex]-2y'_{p}=-2Ae^{2t}-4Ate^{2t}-4Be^{2t}[/tex]
[tex]-3y_{p}=-3Ate^{2t}-3Be^{2t}[/tex]

(4) combine like terms
[tex]te^{t}\left [ 4A-4A-3A \right ]=1
[/tex]
[tex]e^{t}\left [ 4A+4B-2A-4B-3B \right ]=0
[/tex]

(5) I got A = -1/3
but this is wrong.
According to the book, Ate^{2t) has a leading coefficient of -1.
However, coincidentally, my B is 2/3, while the book gives -2/3.

The complete solution to this problem with the given IV is
[tex]y=e^{3t}+(2/3)e^{-t}-(2/3)e^{2t}-te^{2t}[/tex]

I have been working on this and other problems for hours and apparently I have been getting many answers... but I have been checking and redoing. Has anyone catch my mistake yet?

Thank you very much!

I have fixed your tex tags for you. Use tex instead of latex in your tags and don't start with \[ and end with \]. I will check your arithmetic in a while unless someone beats me to it.

[Edit] I see micromass already did this.
[Edit II] And somehow, editing removed the corrections :cry:
[Edit III] And now they are back. Go figure.
 
  • #4
OK, your mistake lies in step (4). You've written

[tex]4A-4A-3A=1[/tex]

But this should be

[tex]4A-4A-3A=3[/tex]

I suspect the other equation in (4) is also wrong...

Edit: the other equation isn't wrong. You should get the correct answer now.

Also, be careful with your notation, writing [itex]te^t(4A-4A-3A)=1[/itex] is very wrong. You should not write [itex]te^t[/itex] in front.
 
  • #5
wooo. i must be stupid at the time
thanks to both of you!
sorry! i was on my school computer and i thought it was because of the javascript.
you guys are awesome!

Also, be careful with your notation, writing tet(4A−4A−3A)=1 is very wrong. You should not write tet in front.
I actually mean the like terms of t*e^t. Would that affect my calculation?

:] thanks i will be careful next time
 

Related to Method of undertermined coefficients (IVP)

1. What is the Method of Undertermined Coefficients?

The Method of Undertermined Coefficients is a mathematical technique used to solve initial value problems (IVPs) in differential equations. It is used when the differential equation has a non-homogeneous term, and involves finding a particular solution that satisfies the given initial conditions.

2. How does the Method of Undertermined Coefficients work?

The Method of Undertermined Coefficients works by assuming a particular form for the solution to the differential equation, based on the non-homogeneous term. This form is then substituted into the differential equation, and the coefficients are determined by solving a system of equations. The resulting solution, when combined with the general solution to the homogeneous equation, provides a complete solution to the IVP.

3. When is the Method of Undertermined Coefficients applicable?

The Method of Undertermined Coefficients is applicable when the differential equation is linear and has constant coefficients, and when the non-homogeneous term is a polynomial, exponential, or trigonometric function.

4. What are the limitations of the Method of Undertermined Coefficients?

The Method of Undertermined Coefficients may not work for all types of non-homogeneous terms, such as higher order polynomials or logarithmic functions. It also does not work for differential equations with variable coefficients or non-linear terms.

5. Can the Method of Undertermined Coefficients be used for non-initial value problems?

Yes, the Method of Undertermined Coefficients can also be used to solve boundary value problems, which involve finding a solution that satisfies given conditions at both endpoints of a given interval.

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