Linear 1st order PDE (boundary conditions)

In summary, the problem is that the limit as u\rightarrow \infty does not depend on x, which makes solving the equation difficult.
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Homework Statement


Solve the equation [tex]u_{x}+2xy^{2}u_{y}=0[/tex] with [tex]u(x,0)=\phi(x)[/tex]

Homework Equations


Implicit function theorem
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=-\frac{\partial u/\partial x}{\partial u/\partial y}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]-\frac{u_x}{u_y}=\frac{dy}{dx}=2xy^2[/tex]
Separating variables
[tex]\frac{dy}{y^2}=2xdx[/tex]
[tex]\frac{-1}{y}=x^2+c[/tex]
[tex]C=x^2+\frac{1}{y}[/tex]
So [tex]u(x,y)=f(x^2+\frac{1}{y})[/tex]
The boundary condition is given as evaluating at [tex]y=0[/tex] which doesn't seem to make sense. Any thoughts? Thanks!
 
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Wouldn't be boundary condition mean you need to pick an f such that f(u)->0 as u->infinity?
 
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Dick said:
Wouldn't be boundary condition mean you need to pick an f such that f(u)->0 as u->infinity?

Since [tex]u(x,y)=f(x^2+\frac{1}{y})[/tex] and [tex]u(x,0)=\phi(x) [/tex],
we have [tex]u(x,0)=f(x^2+\frac{1}{\epsilon})=\phi(x)[/tex] where [tex]\epsilon\rightarrow 0[/tex]. This would imply that [tex]\lim_{u\rightarrow \infty}f(u)=\phi(x)[/tex]. Then again, that can't be right because the limit as [tex]u\rightarrow \infty[/tex] should not depend on x. I'm not sure if I see why you have "f(u)->0".
 
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twizzy said:
Since [tex]u(x,y)=f(x^2+\frac{1}{y})[/tex] and [tex]u(x,0)=\phi(x) [/tex],
we have [tex]u(x,0)=f(x^2+\frac{1}{\epsilon})=\phi(x)[/tex] where [tex]\epsilon\rightarrow 0[/tex]. This would imply that [tex]\lim_{u\rightarrow \infty}f(u)=\phi(x)[/tex]. Then again, that can't be right because the limit as [tex]u\rightarrow \infty[/tex] should not depend on x. I'm not sure if I see why you have "f(u)->0".

I have "f(u)->0" because I was reading the boundary condition as u(x,0)=0, not phi(x). My mistake.
 
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So then if [tex]\phi(x)[/tex] were not a constant, would the question even make sense?
 
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twizzy said:
So then if [tex]\phi(x)[/tex] were not a constant, would the question even make sense?

I'm having trouble seeing how. But then maybe I'm missing something...
 

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1. What is a linear 1st order PDE?

A linear 1st order PDE (partial differential equation) is a mathematical equation that involves partial derivatives of a function with respect to multiple independent variables. It is considered linear if the dependent variables and their derivatives appear only in a linear fashion, and first order if it contains only first derivatives.

2. How is a linear 1st order PDE solved?

A linear 1st order PDE is typically solved by using a method called the method of characteristics. This involves finding a solution curve in the domain of the PDE that satisfies both the PDE and the given boundary conditions.

3. What are boundary conditions in a linear 1st order PDE?

Boundary conditions are additional information or constraints given in a linear 1st order PDE that help determine a unique solution. These conditions are specified at the boundaries of the domain and can be either of two types: Dirichlet boundary conditions, where the value of the solution is given at the boundary, or Neumann boundary conditions, where the derivative of the solution is given at the boundary.

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