Limiting the Expression of Tangent and Sine

In summary, the conversation is about finding the limit of a function as x approaches 0. The participants discuss various approaches such as Taylor expansion and L'Hôpital's rule, and suggest rewriting the terms to simplify the problem. The use of small angle approximation is also mentioned as a possible solution.
  • #1
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Find [tex]\mathop {\lim }\limits_{x \to 0} \frac{{\tan (nx) - n\tan (x)}}
{{n\sin (x) - \sin (nx)}} [/tex]
 
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  • #2
This looks like homework.
What did you try already?
Taylor expansion? L'Hôpitals rule?
 
  • #3
I'm taking a guess here, but couldn't tan(nx) be extracted to sin(nx) / cos(nx) ?

Or is that complicating things, or just wrong?
 
  • #4
That's right and possible though I doubt it will simplify things (but unless you know the Taylor expansion / small argument approximation / derivative and what more you may need to calculate the limit for the tangent, you can use tan = sin/cos to find them). But I think it is time for the TS to show some work.
 
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Small angle approximation, Taylor expansion and L'Hopital's rule is all exactly the same :( Well, at least here it is.
 
  • #6
Another approach, after rewriting the tangent terms as sine/cosine terms, would be to divide top and bottom by x and, with multiplications above and below by n in appropriate places, exploit the heck out of

lim u->0 (sin u)/u = 1 .

[EDIT: Ah-haha! Not so simple as this one looks. This approach does nothing to fix the problem with the denominator. And l'Hopital doesn't fare much better, as you'll get 0 - 0 in the denominator endlessly. I'm checking to see if there's a "nice" way to eliminate the difference in the denominator...]
 
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dynamicsolo said:
exploit the heck out of

lim u->0 (sin u)/u = 1 .

Which, again, is just another form of applying small angle approximation/l'hopital/taylor series =D
 

Related to Limiting the Expression of Tangent and Sine

1. What is the purpose of limiting the expression of tangent and sine?

The purpose of limiting the expression of tangent and sine is to restrict the values of these trigonometric functions to a specific range, typically between -1 and 1, in order to simplify calculations and make them more manageable.

2. How is the expression of tangent and sine limited?

The expression of tangent and sine is limited by using certain rules and identities, such as the Pythagorean identity and the unit circle, to transform the original expression into a simpler form that falls within the desired range.

3. Why is it important to limit the expression of tangent and sine?

It is important to limit the expression of tangent and sine because it allows for more accurate and precise calculations in various fields such as mathematics, physics, and engineering. It also helps to avoid errors and confusion when working with these functions.

4. What are some common examples of limiting the expression of tangent and sine?

Some common examples of limiting the expression of tangent and sine include using trigonometric identities to simplify expressions, applying the unit circle to find equivalent values, and using inverse trigonometric functions to find restricted values.

5. Can the expression of tangent and sine be limited to any range?

Yes, the expression of tangent and sine can be limited to any desired range. It is common to limit them to values between -1 and 1, but they can also be limited to other ranges depending on the specific needs of a problem or calculation.

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