Laplace's equation & Fourier series - I can use cos or sin?

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the velocity field of an incompressible fluid in a square pipe and solving a homogenous Laplace's equation using separation of variables and trigonemtric solutions. The question of which value of K is correct arises due to a change in coordinate system, but it is concluded that either value of K will produce the same answer.
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This is a question related to finding the velocity field of an incompressible fluid in a square pipe with sides at y = ±(a/2) and x = ± (a/2).

It comes down to solving a homogenous equation which is also Laplace's equation

[itex] \frac {δ^2 w(x,y)^H}{δ x^2} + \frac {δ^2 w(x,y)^H}{δy^2} = 0 [/itex]

using separation of variables, and combining this with the particular solution (which is only a function of y!) and using the boundary conditions;

w(a/2,y) = w(-a/2, y) = 0
w(x, a/2) = w(x, -a/2) = 0

And

[itex] w(x,y) = w(y)^P + w(x,y)^H = w(y)^P + X(x)Y(y)[/itex]

representing the homogenous and particular solutions.

I let Y(y) be the trigonemtric function (this is mandatory) from Laplace's equation, and the boundary conditions impose that Y(a/2) = Y(-a/2) = 0.

[itex] Y(y) = Csin(Kx) + Dcos(Kx) [/itex]

Where C, D, K are constants (K arises from the constant used in Laplace's equation).

This implies.[itex] Csin(Ka/2) + Dcos(Ka/2) = 0 [/itex]
[itex] -Csin(Ka/2) + Dcos(Ka/2) = 0 [/itex]My issue is that K can be resolved to having two values, either;

[itex] K = \frac{(2m+1)\pi}{a} [/itex]

m runs from 0 to infinity

or

[itex] K = \frac{2m\pi}{a} [/itex]

m runs from 1 to infinity.

And in the first case, C = 0. In the second case D = 0.

My confusion is the simple question: Which is the right one? I go on to add to w(x,y) a linear superposition of solutions to Laplace's equation which uses the value of K throughout, however does this produce the same answer? How can I know?

If I follow through with C = 0 or D = 0, then I get two very different answers for each - and I can't tell if they're the same or not. (The mathematics is long and complicated that I would rather not post it here).However, if I were to change my co-ordinate system (by shifting the y-axis down by a/2), the boundary conditions become w(x,0) = w(x,a). This is exactly the same situation, except that I find that D = 0 is a mandatory requirement, and that

[itex] K = \frac {n\pi}{a} [/itex]

So I get a definite solution. This is caused by changing the co-ordinate system, so surely either of the ways above (D = 0, or C = 0) produce the same answer?
 
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Homework Equations The equations I used are all listed above, but to summarise: Laplace's equation: \frac {δ^2 w(x,y)^H}{δ x^2} + \frac {δ^2 w(x,y)^H}{δy^2} = 0 Separation of variables: w(x,y) = w(y)^P + w(x,y)^H = w(y)^P + X(x)Y(y)Trigonemtric solution for Y(y): Y(y) = Csin(Kx) + Dcos(Kx) The two K values: K = \frac{(2m+1)\pi}{a} K = \frac{2m\pi}{a} Boundary conditions: w(a/2,y) = w(-a/2, y) = 0w(x, a/2) = w(x, -a/2) = 0The Attempt at a SolutionI have tried to explain my confusion in the statement.
 

Related to Laplace's equation & Fourier series - I can use cos or sin?

1. What is Laplace's equation?

Laplace's equation is a partial differential equation used in mathematics and physics to describe the behavior of electric and gravitational fields. It is named after mathematician and physicist Pierre-Simon Laplace.

2. How is Laplace's equation used in science?

Laplace's equation is used to solve a variety of problems in physics, engineering, and mathematics. It is often used in the study of heat transfer, fluid dynamics, and electrostatics.

3. What is a Fourier series?

A Fourier series is a mathematical representation of a periodic function as a sum of sine and cosine functions. It is named after mathematician Joseph Fourier and is used to analyze and approximate periodic functions.

4. How is a Fourier series related to Laplace's equation?

Laplace's equation can be solved using a Fourier series, which allows for the decomposition of the equation into simpler parts. This makes it easier to find a solution for more complex problems.

5. Can cosine or sine functions be used interchangeably in a Fourier series for Laplace's equation?

Yes, both cosine and sine functions can be used in a Fourier series for Laplace's equation. The choice between the two depends on the initial and boundary conditions of the problem being solved.

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