Just received a Hacking Threat by email

In summary, the person received an email that threatened them with hacking, and asks for payment to stop. There is no evidence of a virus, and the threat is a bluff. The email's return address is embedded in the header, so it's easy to track. The threat is more likely a result of past corporate breaches, or if the person doesn't use end-to-end encryption. If the person wants to "play" the hacker's game, they can reply to the email asking for proof.
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jack action said:
For all I know, traditional banks haven't stopped criminal activities in any way.
Maybe in Canada. (Although I gave never thought of Canada as a baking haven) In the US, banks are requried to report suspicious activities. Certainly this has caught more than a few criminals - including at least one case when stolen cash was deposited with the band (with the bank's name on it) still on the packs of bills.
 
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BWV said:
Only on transaction on this wallet on 7/19 (prior to the email), so fortunately no takers

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So you believe he actually did hack into my account?
 
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WWGD said:
So you believe he actually did hack into my account?
No, its a scam
 
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PeroK said:
Banks are, at least in theory, governed by the law and banking regulations. It's unlikely that you'll wake up one morning to find your bank account empty. And, even if you do, there is a legal process available.

If someone steals your bitcoin, AFAIK, it's gone and you have no means of redress, legal or otherwise.

If the blackmailer's account in this case was with a regular bank, the account could be frozen.
Vanadium 50 said:
Maybe in Canada. (Although I gave never thought of Canada as a baking haven) In the US, banks are requried to report suspicious activities. Certainly this has caught more than a few criminals - including at least one case when stolen cash was deposited with the band (with the bank's name on it) still on the packs of bills.
So criminality is stopped outside Canada because of banks? Because we still have criminality in Canada and even well-organized criminal groups. All I see is a more complicated life for the common citizen and the more naive ones (we all been one at one time or another) still fall for cons that are only adapted to the new reality.

Vanadium 50 said:
Although I gave never thought of Canada as a baking haven
You should taste my cupcakes!
 
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WWGD said:
So you believe he actually did hack into my account?
This is not your money, it is someone else's who received the same email as yours, fell for the scam, and paid.
 
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Sorry, Canada is a baking haven. Timmy's!

I meant banking.

However, if you require anti-crime measures to stop every single crime, we should dispense with door locks. And police.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
we should dispense with door locks. And police.
A door lock - like blocking certain emails I received - is a measure I use to protect myself ... if I want one ... when I feel I need one.

Police - like banking regulations - is something imposed on me ... all the time ... whether I like it or not.

If the door lock works, the police is not needed.

And the police cost something, is not always helpful when the door lock fails (or worst is inexistent because one relies solely on the police), and always ends up complicating our day-to-day routine.

The moral is that it is better to learn locksmithery than rely on somebody else to guard your stuff.
 
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  • #43
jack action said:
The moral is that it is better to learn locksmithery than rely on somebody else to guard your stuff.
Layered defense...

Regarding that scam: a really lame, basic attempt. What I got even had one of my dummy passwords exposed as proof of personal attention o0)
 
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It's a good thing I don't worry about those emails because I got another one today in my spam folder with a slightly different text:

🟢 Hi!

I regret to inform you about some sad news for you.
Approximately a month or two ago I have succeeded to gain a total access to all your devices utilized for browsing internet.
Moving forward, I have started observing your internet activities on continuous basis.

Go ahead and take a look at the sequence of events provided below for your reference:
Initially I bought an exclusive access from hackers to a long list of email accounts (in today's world, that is really a common thing, which can arranged via internet).
Evidently, it wasn't hard for me to proceed with logging in your email account ([email address removed]).

Within the same week, I moved on with installing a Trojan virus in Operating Systems for all devices that you use to login to email.
Frankly speaking, it wasn't a challenging task for me at all (since you were kind enough to click some of the links in your inbox emails before).
Yeah, geniuses are among us.

Because of this Trojan I am able to gain access to entire set of controllers in devices (e.g., your video camera, keyboard, microphone and others).
As result, I effortlessly downloaded all data, as well as photos, web browsing history and other types of data to my servers.
Moreover, I have access to all social networks accounts that you regularly use, including emails, including chat history, messengers, contacts list etc.
My unique virus is incessantly refreshing its signatures (due to control by a driver), and hence remains undetected by any type of antiviruses.

Hence, I guess by now you can already see the reason why I always remained undetected until this very letter...

During the process of compilation of all the materials associated with you,
I also noticed that you are a huge supporter and regular user of websites hosting nasty adult content.
Turns out to be, you really love visiting porn websites, as well as watching exciting videos and enduring unforgettable pleasures.
As a matter of fact, I was not able to withstand the temptation, but to record certain nasty solo action with you in main role,
and later produced a few videos exposing your masturbation and cumming scenes.

If until now you don't believe me, all I need is one-two mouse clicks to make all those videos with everyone you know,
including your friends, colleagues, relatives and others.
Moreover, I am able to upload all that video content online for everyone to see.
I sincerely think, you certainly would not wish such incidents to take place, in view of the lustful things demonstrated in your commonly watched videos,
(you absolutely know what I mean by that) it will cause a huge adversity for you.

There is still a solution to this matter, and here is what you need to do:
You make a transaction of 620 USD to my account (an equivalent in bitcoins, which recorded depending on the exchange rate at the date of funds transfer),
hence upon receiving the transfer, I will immediately get rid of all those lustful videos without delay.
After that we can make it look like there was nothing happening beforehand.
Additionally, I can confirm that all the Trojan software is going to be disabled and erased from all devices that you use. You have nothing to worry about,
because I keep my word at all times.

That is indeed a beneficial bargain that comes with a relatively reduced price,
taking into consideration that your profile and traffic were under close monitoring during a long time frame.
If you are still unclear regarding how to buy and perform transactions with bitcoins - everything is available online.

Below is my bitcoin wallet for your further reference:
15Aq9jP5ATC5baaYuh8CU3iyQegDnsaDWT

All you have is 48 hours and the countdown begins once this email is opened (in other words 2 days).

The following list includes things you should remember and avoid doing:
>> There's no point to try replying my email (since this email and return address were created inside your inbox).
>> There's no point in calling police or any other types of security services either. Furthermore, don't you dare sharing this info with any of your friends.
If I discover that (taking into consideration my skills, it will be really simple, because I control all your systems and continuously monitor them)
your nasty clip will be shared with public straight away.
>> There's no point in looking for me too - it won't result in any success. Transactions with cryptocurrency are completely anonymous and untraceable.
>> There's no point in reinstalling your OS on devices or trying to throw them away. That won't solve the issue,
since all clips with you as main character are already uploaded on remote servers.

Things that may be concerning you:
>> That funds transfer won't be delivered to me.
Breathe out, I can track down everything right away, so once funds transfer is finished,
I will know for sure, since I interminably track down all activities done by you (my Trojan virus controls all processes remotely, just as TeamViewer).
>> That your videos will be distributed, even though you have completed money transfer to my wallet.
Trust me, it is worthless for me to still bother you after money transfer is successful. Moreover, if that was ever part of my plan, I would do make it happen way earlier!

We are going to approach and deal with it in a clear manner!

In conclusion, I'd like to recommend one more thing... after this you need to make certain you don't get involved in similar kind of unpleasant events anymore!
My recommendation - ensure all your passwords are replaced with new ones on a regular basis.

The fun thing about this one: It actually tells you how to respond to that email:

There's no point to try replying my email
There's no point in calling police or any other types of security services either
There's no point in looking for me too
There's no point in reinstalling your OS on devices or trying to throw them away

See, there's no point in reacting to the email in any way! Just ignore it!

Inflation is really bad because the demand has increased by $10.

On a sadder note, there is already $610.90 in the Bitcoin account.

It is funny how every text conveys the same message but in slightly different wording. I wonder if each text is AI-generated? Maybe this is how Skynet is financing its revolution?
 
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You know what I find curious? That they always ask for around 600 bucks. How did they arrive at this figure and why is it so consistent across the different emails?
Did they hire a socio-economist to determine the amount most likely to bring in the highest returns?
Did they do some polling work among the potential scammees?
Did they run test scams to get some empirical data to help them zero in on what's best (are these the test scams)?
Or is it more like the senders are all working from the same dorm room or sweatshop somewhere in Kuala Lumpur or Ouagadougou - the same place that used to have all those Nigerian princes chained to typewriters - and just shouting across cubicles asking what to put in there?

What is the process here, I wonder.

Also, I remember receiving this kind of scam some years ago, not long after the dial-up era. By snail mail.
 
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DrJohn said:
I got a phone call once that told me my computer had some major problems that they had detected over the last few weeks as they were calling from MS Security, and if I followed their instructions by looking at a certain feature that MS supply built in to Windows, I would see lots of errors, in red, that needed correcting to stay secure.
I got that same phone call from "MS Security" last year.
So they gave me careful instructions on how to fix the problem.
They told me to log in, open a browser, go to a particular site, and more.

Things did not work out as they expected. I didn't have a Windows system in my home at that time - so when I responded back to them, it was based on what I would have expected a Windows system to do if I was actually logging on, etc. It was fun - but eventually they got frustrated. They ultimately recognized that I was simply too stupid to accurately follow their instructions.
However, I did add their URL to the hosts file on my Ubuntu system - directing it to 127.0.0.1.More recently, the parent of a coworker died, so we were looking for the obit to find out whether flowers or a charitable contribution was being suggested. I never found the obit, but when I opened one obit site that looked potentially helpful, it asked me to prove I was not a robot by hitting the "allow" button. Of course, I preferred to be treated as a robot.
 
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Oh! Then I'm safe! When they crack into my records they'll see that I don't actually have $600 to pay them.

-Dan
 
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  • #48
jack action said:
This is not your money, it is someone else's who received the same email as yours, fell for the scam, and paid.
Yes. And if you paid them within their specified 2-day period, they would be able to recognize that payment as coming from you.
I expect that that would result in another email from them with more bad news - worse news. Something like: "Oh my! We've had more time to look at some of these email files and we really can't let you off the hook so easily...".
 
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jack action said:
there is already $610.90 in the Bitcoin account.
Seed money.
Bandersnatch said:
That they always ask for around 600 bucks. How did they arrive at this figure and why is it so consistent across the different emails?
You could always undercut them: "Bandersnatch's Discount Spam & Scam"
 
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'Don't fall for those expensive scammers! Our organically sourced scams are virus-free and start as cheap as 300 trillion Zimbabwean dollars! But wait, there's more! Only today: fall for OUR scam within the next 24 hours and you'll receive another scam completely free of charge*!'

*terms and conditions apply
 
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I tried to get ChatGPT to expand on that with a "but wait, there's more" type of scam. Sadly, it refused. However, I did get it to respond to this prompt:
Create an obviously false scam in the form of "but wait, there's more".

Introducing the "Quantum Magnetic Miracle Bracelet" – But wait, there's more!

Are you tired of feeling out of sync with the universe? Do you yearn for better health, increased energy, and a deeper connection to the cosmos? Well, look no further because we have the ultimate solution for you!

Introducing the "Quantum Magnetic Miracle Bracelet" – a revolutionary breakthrough in pseudo-science and deception. This one-of-a-kind bracelet is embedded with ancient alien technology, specially crafted from moon rocks gathered during a secret NASA mission to a hidden extraterrestrial base.

"But wait, there's more!" When you wear this bracelet, it taps into the mysterious power of quantum mechanics to rebalance your chakras, align your aura, and activate your dormant psychic abilities. Say goodbye to negativity, and hello to a world of endless possibilities!

Not only that, but the "Quantum Magnetic Miracle Bracelet" comes infused with the energy of rare crystals mined from the core of Atlantis (which was conveniently discovered during a deep-sea diving adventure). These crystals amplify the quantum vibrations, ensuring you stay in tune with the cosmic symphony at all times.

"But wait, there's even more!" This miraculous bracelet also emits subliminal frequencies that communicate with your body's cells, encouraging them to regenerate and stay forever youthful. In fact, wearing the "Quantum Magnetic Miracle Bracelet" will make you immune to aging, and you'll never need to worry about wrinkles or grey hair again!

And if you act now, we'll throw in a special "Cosmic Cleansing Crystal" as a bonus gift. This crystal, hailing from a distant galaxy, will magically purify your drinking water, transforming it into the elixir of immortality. Sip this water every day, and you'll become invincible!

"But wait, there's still more!" To prove our dedication to your wellbeing, we'll include an exclusive membership to our "Interstellar Inner Circle." You'll gain access to a private online community where like-minded quantum enthusiasts discuss their experiences with the "Quantum Magnetic Miracle Bracelet" and share their favorite recipes for cosmic smoothies.

And the price for this mind-blowing marvel of a bracelet? A mere $999.99! But don't worry, we offer a no-questions-asked money-back guarantee if you don't experience the cosmic transformation within the first 24 hours of wearing it.

Remember, this offer won't last forever, as we're planning our next mission to collect more moon rocks and replenish the limited supply of this magical bracelet. So act now and join the ranks of the enlightened beings basking in the quantum energy of the "Quantum Magnetic Miracle Bracelet"!
 
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  • #52
Borg said:
I tried to get ChatGPT to expand on that with a "but wait, there's more" type of scam. Sadly, it refused. However, I did get it to respond to this prompt:
Create an obviously false scam in the form of "but wait, there's more".
You forgot to give a phone number the requisite 7 times, and finish off with "Call now. Operators are standing by."

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
Call now. Operators are standing by.

Call now. Nigerian Princesses are standing by.
 
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This is crazy. I have received 2 other variations of this threat (spam folder). Now we are up to 730 $ and 760 $; Damn inflation!

But the worst, one of them has pictures now! A naked dude - pixelized - while doing the nasty is shown to me as an example of what could happen to me!

[...]

There is still a solution to this matter, and here is what you need to do:You make a transaction of $730 to my account(an equivalent in bitcoins, which recorded depending on the exchange rate at the date of funds transfer)hence upon receiving the transfer, I will immediately get rid of all those lustful videos without delay.After that we can make it look like there was nothing happening beforehand.Additionally, I can confirm that all the Trojan software is going to be disabled and erased from all devices that you use.You have nothing to worry about, because I keep my word at all times.

That is indeed a beneficial bargain that comes with a relatively reduced price,taking into consideration that your profile and traffic were under close monitoring during a long time frame.If you are still unclear regarding how to buy and perform transactions with bitcoins - everything is available online.

Below is my bitcoin wallet for your further reference:
1AyLWnrMcToF2vBnsE3SzwirXFhuc4jpUC

All you have is 48 hours and the countdown begins once this email is opened.

For example (it could be you next time):
* If you are unable to see the photos, move this letter to <Inbox> folder or See attachments.

[nasty picture]
[nasty picture]

Good luck!

And then 2 days later I have another one (like I never received the first one). For the first time, they have the same Bitcoin address (5.16 $ already in it).

I imagine these come from wannabe scammers who got scammed themselves by buying a get-rich-quick scheme (an email list with a how-to method), thinking it would be easy money. (I doubt it can work that well, especially when sending so many to the same addresses.) Now the web will be filled with these like the African prince scam from a few years ago.
 
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Interesting twist - just got this one, apparently I become an internet pornstar if I dont pay them:
Greetings!

Our AI-powered tools have detected that you are featured in sexually explicit content that was uploaded to our platform.

At our company, we take the security and privacy of our users very seriously, and we use advanced technology to help detect and prevent the distribution of non-consensual intimate images and videos.

While our tools are powerful, we also rely on human oversight to ensure that our platform remains safe and secure for everyone.
If you have approved the upload of this content, you do not need to take any further action. The video will be published to our library within the next seven days, and you will have an opportunity to review the content after the grace period has passed.

However, if you did not approve the upload of this content, we kindly ask that you follow the instructions below to take immediate action.

Our platform boasts an extensive network of websites and partners, which means that ensuring the security of our content is a top priority.

To achieve this, all uploaded content is digitally fingerprinted using both the MediaWise® service from Vobile® and Safeguard, our own proprietary digital fingerprinting software.

This helps to prevent unauthorized distribution of content on our platform.

For our premium users who upload content, we offer monetary incentives. However, in some cases, uploaded content may be put on hold.
If this happens, we can initiate a quick automated removal process, but we would require an incentive refund to do so.

The basic express removal, blocking, and protection against re-uploading of content on our network of 20 websites costs $199 USD.

As a digital company, we take great pride in our integrity and measures, which is why we offer additional options for protecting against unauthorized content uploads 24/7.

We have all our processes automated, including payment processing, for your convenience.

Our Plan A includes everything in the basic removal option, plus digitally fingerprinting of the content and automated removal and protection against re-uploading to our vast network of partner websites (300+) for one year, all for $699 USD.

If you require the best protection available, we recommend our
Plan B, which includes everything in Plan A plus digital protection by MediaWise® and Safeguard based on facial recognition data for three years. This ensures that any content with your biometrics will be blocked, and it costs $1399 USD.

Our system takes care of your request automatically and swiftly, so there's no need to contact us.

The payment process is automated through a Bitcoin gateway, and the digital number you receive below is unique to your case and doesn't require any extra confirmation.

1DzWf1Y9nDKPgmc2em37KRjYePPmWggRce

To transfer the amount corresponding to your chosen option, copy and paste this identifier into your preferred cryptocurrency wallet.You can review the content uploaded after the seven-day grace period, either by checking our Youporn.com library or by contacting the member who uploaded the content.

We encourage users who feature in content and wish to prevent its upload to our platform to consider proactively digitally fingerprinting it.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
 
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BWV said:
Interesting twist - just got this one, apparently I become an internet pornstar if I dont pay them:
Refer them to your agent.
 
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.Scott said:
Refer them to your agent.
Preferably the one from the CIA.

(for those not familiar with our love of abbreviations here in the USA, that's Central Intelligence Agency; the federal agency that investigates foreign security threats)
 
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You'd think too, that if someone was this technically adept to do all the things they claim to have done, that they'd be able to get a good-paying legit job, rather than taking a risk by black-hat hacking. Unless currently in Russia, or similar. Edit: I've received 4-5 similar such emails since my OP. I'm curious to check whether the Bitcoin keys are all the same or not. I assume the same source would keep the same bit coin key.
 
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Got another one today, the scammer spoofed my email address, I guess to try to make me think my computer had really been hacked (the IP address was from Turkey and the spam filter caught it)
 
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BWV said:
Got another one today, the scammer spoofed my email address, I guess to try to make me think my computer had really been hacked (the IP address was from Turkey and the spam filter caught it)
Yes, none of my blackmail threats seemed like written by a native speaker.
 
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Howdy, double-double-you-gee-dee. This reads as a scam. I recently cleaned an old but still intact hotmail account that I haven't used in years and have failed to monitor often. Found many such email scams many centered around my Amazon account still retaining the old hotmail address. The scam emails almost exactly match the purportedly legitimate Amazon notices.

I reported the most egregious fakes to Amazon and next day received a call from "Amazon tech support" on my cell. The caller was very slick and professional, obviously native Mandarin speaker from his accent. Mr. Lee explained how vulnerable I am to dox and phishing attacks, explaining how he never asks for specific bank account info. etc., but offering to contact all banks associated with my Amazon account payments.

Red lights finally lit, I noticed his call was from a blocked private number. I managed a few insults while wasting time. Then I called Amazon customer support, a very nice lady with a Mumbai accent found no problems or false orders on my account. These scams mainly involved "confirmation emails" for large items I did not order.

Mr. Lee was very good at what Steve Wozniak called "social engineering" when he was stealing phone time BITD. Expecting contact from Amazon, I almost fell for this slickster who seems to specialize robbing elderly users, gathering data shared by a large team of thieves.

What a shamble these cretins have made of the Internet and, now, online commerce. I agree the English errors and other mistakes in your posts reek of Eastern Europe / Russian speakers.
 
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There's a nasty trick that they try in the UK. They phone you up, and simultaneously request a security code to get sent to your cellphone. When the code pops up on your phone, you might think it proves they are legitimate. But, of course, you should only ever get such a code if you yourself have requested it and it's for you to use directly to authenticate yourself. The text gives a warning to this effect. The scammers try to get the code from you - which would allow them to authenticate themselves as you.

What can be done?
 
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This works for email, phone and your doorstep - if you didn't initiate contact, don't give them any information. Ever. Frankly, I don't even bother to read the spam that's been described here so I may have been getting this junk and wouldn't know it. I also don't answer unknown phone numbers.

Another scam being done with today's AI algorithms is when people have been phone-cloned using their social media posts. In one recent incident, a woman got a call from her 'daughter' begging for money for kidnappers. The woman was smart enough to text her actual daughter and learned that the call was fake. The caller had used an algorithm to clone her daughter's voice using her social media posts. The only foolproof defense to this is a safe word that the caller won't know but your family members will know. Even so, it can be extremely unsettling to hear 'your' loved one screaming for help.
 
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Borg said:
The caller had used an algorithm to clone her daughter's voice using her social media posts. The only foolproof defense to this is a safe word that the caller won't know but your family members will know.
I've seen 'This is you nephew grampa. Send me money' messages but this seems to take it to a new level.
Safe word is a good step to implement. Thanks.
 
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Gone quiet now, but I was getting 3~~6 calls a week from 'Microsoft' about problems with my PC...
Well, yes: This was in those months after that BIG Windows update that broke a zoo of stuff.

I'd usually just listen to the semi-plausible spiel, hang up.
But, finding update had broken Notepad's wrap-function (!!!) 'Set off my Irish'.

I totally monologued that unfortunate would-be scammer, did not allow a word in edge-wise.
Five minutes....
Ten minutes...
Fifteen minutes...
"The Other Caller Has Cleared."

IIRC, it was several weeks before the next call. And, as soon as I mentioned 'Notepad Wrap', they rang off !!!

E-mail whatsits have thinned out of late as my ISP is getting better at stomping them.

'Microsoft' calls have just about stopped. The 'Usual Suspects' now mostly remind me to urgently renew my expired Amazon Prime or Sky accounts. As I have neither, I allow myself a polite head-shake...
--
FWIW, Notepad's wrap only broke at a specific page width. Neither 'US Letter' nor 'EU A4', this happened to match the format my post-middle-aged eyes prefer. The Windows forum did not believe me at first, but my evidence convinced. Still, took the better part of six months to patch...
 
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I'd usually just listen to the semi-plausible spiel, hang up.
Yeah, rather than hanging up on them, I like to string them along - waste their time and delay them from scamming the next guy.

"Aw shoot. Now I gotta reboot. Hang on." (five minute pause)
 
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Back in the 90's, I remember getting a robocall from some machine. I didn't respond to it but I also decided not to hang up. I could hear the machine try to hang up and then pick up the line again. Unfortunately for it, it did not hang up long enough with me still connected. I decided to just lay the phone on the counter to see how long I could tie up their robodialer. After about six hours of tying up their machine, I finally decided to hang up.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
OK, hang on.

You seem to be talking about a bona fide attack (and one that must have succeeded if they could actually do any damage). I think those are relatively rare enough that private individuals will generally never see one.

As far as I understand, what WWGD and most of us receive is totally phishing - a complete and utter bluff there is zero teeth behind it.
I've received around 7 more since this one. I'll check whether the bitcoins referenced in each post are all the same. See if it's the same guy/group. I assume they'd be using just one bitcoin.
 
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My wife just got a call from the television service. But in response to his second question my wife noted to him that he had just stopped speaking in English. He hung up.
 
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Human ingenuity at its best, the delivery system has now changed:

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I received this email in my junk folder. While taking the screenshot, I was hovering over the "View messages" button and you can see the beginning of the link at the bottom: The usual message is now written as a query to Google translate! ("More information" and "Change" links are the same.)

Screenshot_2023-09-19_14-35-02.png

Probably done this way because spam filters caught up to them but, on the upside, if English wasn't the language of your mark, let the Big Guys help you reach them!
 
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