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How are you able to determine if a solution is rational or irrational
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I'm pretty sure it will be something basic I'm forgetting, thanks for any help.
Irrational or Rational [Newton-Raphson]
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In summary, the conversation discusses the use of the Newton-Raphson method to determine if a solution is rational or irrational, with two opposing viewpoints on the matter. One view is that the solution given by the Newton-Raphson method is always rational due to its finite number of decimal places, while the other view argues that the method cannot determine the true solution and therefore cannot determine if it is rational or irrational.
How are you able to determine if a solution is rational or irrational
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I'm pretty sure it will be something basic I'm forgetting, thanks for any help.
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If you mean that you are using the Newton-Raphson method to solve an equation, then there are two oppposite ways to answer: (1) The "solution" the Newton-Raphson method gives you- which may be only approximate is always rational because it can only give you a finite number of decimal places. (2) There is no way of determining from the Newton-Raphson method whether or not the true solution to the equation is rational or irrational because you cannot determine the true solution using the Newton-
Raphson method.
Raphson method.
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cheers, never would of thought of that.
Related to Irrational or Rational [Newton-Raphson]
What is the Newton-Raphson method?
The Newton-Raphson method is a root-finding algorithm used to find the roots of a given function. It is an iterative process that uses the derivative of the function to approximate the root.
When is the Newton-Raphson method used?
The Newton-Raphson method is used when an analytical solution to a problem is difficult or impossible to obtain. It is commonly used in fields such as physics, engineering, and finance to find roots of complex equations.
What is the difference between irrational and rational numbers?
Irrational numbers are numbers that cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers, while rational numbers can be expressed as a ratio of two integers. Irrational numbers include numbers like pi and the square root of 2, while rational numbers include whole numbers, fractions, and terminating decimals.
How does the Newton-Raphson method determine if a root is rational or irrational?
The Newton-Raphson method does not determine if a root is rational or irrational. Instead, it uses a series of iterative approximations to approach the root of a given function. Whether the resulting root is rational or irrational depends on the function and the starting point chosen for the iteration.
What are some limitations of the Newton-Raphson method?
The Newton-Raphson method may fail to converge if the starting point is too far from the actual root or if the function has multiple roots. It also requires knowledge of the derivative of the function, which may not always be available. Additionally, the method may produce inaccurate results if the function has a steep slope near the root.
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