Integration and Partial Differentiation Problem

In summary, the conversation involves a question about integrating a complicated expression and a question about finding the equality of two partial derivatives. The solution involves factorizing the expressions and using integration by partial fractions. The final solution is obtained by calculating the partial derivatives correctly and using the quotient rule.
  • #1
Mastur
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Homework Statement


(A)
[itex]\int{\frac{(v^2+2v+4)dv}{v^3+v^2+2v+4}}[/itex]

(B)
[itex]\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}}=(1-xy)^{-2}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{\partial{N}}{\partial{x}}=y^2+x^2(1-xy)^{-2}[/itex]

Homework Equations


(A) How can I integrate this?

(B)After getting the partial derivatives, are they equal?

The Attempt at a Solution


(A)This is actually I stopped since I cannot integrate it. I tried factoring the denominator so I can use integration by partial fractions. Unfortunately, I cannot. Any hint in integrating it?

(B)
[itex]\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}}=\frac{2x}{1-xy}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{\partial{N}}{\partial{x}}=\frac{2x+2x^2y-2x^3y^2}{(1-xy)^2}[/itex]

Can I still factor the second equation so I can get the same answer like the [itex]\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}}[/itex]?
 
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  • #2
Mastur said:
[itex]\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}}=(1-xy)^{-2}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{\partial{N}}{\partial{x}}=y^2+x^2(1-xy)^{-2}[/itex]


(B)After getting the partial derivatives, are they equal?

Do they look equal if you try, for example, x = 0 and y = 0 in both?
 
  • #3
LCKurtz said:
Do they look equal if you try, for example, x = 0 and y = 0 in both?
Yes, they will be equal after differentiating.

But that does not work all the time. I've tried checking my other answers in other problem, tried substituting x & y by 0, but not all are equal, but the equation is still exact after differentiating.
 
  • #4
We are obviously mis-communicating. Please state the original problem you are working on that involves the M and N in part B of your question. Presumably there is a differential equation involved.

Also you have said

[itex]
\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}}=(1-xy)^{-2}
[/itex]
in your question and

[itex]
\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}}=\frac{2x}{1-xy}
[/itex]

in your solution. They can't both be My
 
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  • #5
Sorry for the confusion.

The equation is:

[itex]M=(1-xy)^{-2}[/itex]

[itex]N=y^2+x^2(1-xy)^{-2}[/itex]

And I got this function after differentiating.

[itex]\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}}=\frac{2x}{1-xy}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{\partial{N}}{\partial{x}}=\frac{2x+2x^2y-2x^3y^2}{(1-xy)^2}[/itex]

My actual question is, is there any way to make the [itex]\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}} = \frac{\partial{N}}{\partial{x}}[/itex]??
 
  • #6
Mastur said:
Sorry for the confusion.

The equation is:

[itex]M=(1-xy)^{-2}[/itex]

[itex]N=y^2+x^2(1-xy)^{-2}[/itex]

And I got this function after differentiating.

[itex]\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}}=\frac{2x}{1-xy}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{\partial{N}}{\partial{x}}=\frac{2x+2x^2y-2x^3y^2}{(1-xy)^2}[/itex]

My actual question is, is there any way to make the [itex]\frac{\partial{M}}{\partial{y}} = \frac{\partial{N}}{\partial{x}}[/itex]??

Yes, there is, but you need to calculate them correctly. Neither of your partials is correct. Given that both functions have a quantity to the -2 power, you would expect a denominator with exponent of 3 in your simplified answers. Perhaps if you write both M and N as quotients instead of using negative exponents and use the quotient rule, you might have better luck calculating the partials. Just guessing here, since you didn't show your work.
 

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