Initial value Problem, ODE

At x= 0, dx/dt= 0 so the equation is satisfied. However, it is not a "different" solution from x= ((1/3)t)^{1/3}. It is the same solution for all t less than 0. For positive t, x= ((1/3)t)^{1/3} is the solution, for negative t, x= 0 is the solution.
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Homework Statement


Proof that there exist more than one solution to following equation
[itex]\frac{dx}{dt} = \sqrt[3]{x^{2}} , x(0) = 0[/itex]

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I need a confirmation to my attempt of solution. The one is quite forward:

[itex]\Rightarrow x=(1/3(t+c))^{3} [/itex]

Pluging in x(0) = 0 yields that:

[itex]\Rightarrow x=(1/3(t))^{3} [/itex] is a solution.

The point is, my professor never told us how to solve ODEs. Most of the time he's talking about manifolds, charts, diffeomorphisms, etc.

So I guess the other solution one finds doing following:
Since [itex]x(0) = 0 \Rightarrow \dot{x}(0) = 0[/itex]

Pluging in [itex]\dot{x}[/itex] one gets:

[itex]0 = \sqrt[3]{x^{2}}[/itex]

and therefore the other solution is x = 0

Are my solutions correct?
 
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brainslush said:

Homework Statement


Proof that there exist more than one solution to following equation
[itex]\frac{dx}{dt} = \sqrt[3]{x^{2}} , x(0) = 0[/itex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I need a confirmation to my attempt of solution. The one is quite forward:

[itex]\Rightarrow x=\sqrt[3]{3(t+c)} [/itex]

I don't see how you got that solution? I don't even think it's correct. Could you elaborate?

Pluging in x(0) = 0 yields that:

[itex]\Rightarrow x=\sqrt[3]{3t} [/itex] is a solution.

The point is, my professor never told us how to solve ODEs. Most of the time he's talking about manifolds, charts, diffeomorphisms, etc.

So I guess the other solution one finds doing following:
Since [itex]x(0) = 0 \Rightarrow \dot{x}(0) = 0[/itex]

Pluging in [itex]\dot{x}[/itex] one gets:

[itex]0 = \sqrt[3]{x^{2}}[/itex]

and therefore the other solution is x = 0

Are my solutions correct?

The x(t)=0 solution is good!
 
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Upss my bad, totally messed up the first solution
 
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If you don't know it, the trick in finding the solution to such an equation is "separation of the variables".

Say, for example, that you have the ODE

[tex]\frac{dx}{dt}=\frac{t}{x}[/tex]

then you rewrite it as

[tex]xdx=tdt[/tex]

Integrating gives you

[tex]\int{xdx}=\int{tdt}[/tex]

Thus

[tex]\frac{x^2}{2}=\frac{t^2}{2}+C[/tex]

and so we get that

[tex]x=\pm\sqrt{t^2+C}[/tex]

is the answer. Try something analogous for your equation...
 
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brainslush said:

Homework Statement


Proof that there exist more than one solution to following equation
[itex]\frac{dx}{dt} = \sqrt[3]{x^{2}} , x(0) = 0[/itex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Well, I need a confirmation to my attempt of solution. The one is quite forward:

[itex]\Rightarrow x=(1/3(t+c))^{3} [/itex]
This should be to the 1/3 power, not 3.

Pluging in x(0) = 0 yields that:

[itex]\Rightarrow x=(1/3(t))^{3} [/itex] is a solution.
[itex]x= ((1/3)t)^{1/3}[/itex] is a solution.

The point is, my professor never told us how to solve ODEs. Most of the time he's talking about manifolds, charts, diffeomorphisms, etc.
Sounds like the course is much more advanced than a differential equations course so your professor is assuming you have already taken a course in differential equations.

So I guess the other solution one finds doing following:
Since [itex]x(0) = 0 \Rightarrow \dot{x}(0) = 0[/itex]

Pluging in [itex]\dot{x}[/itex] one gets:

[itex]0 = \sqrt[3]{x^{2}}[/itex]

and therefore the other solution is x = 0

Are my solutions correct?
x= 0 is definitely a solution!
 

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1. What is an initial value problem?

An initial value problem (IVP) is a type of differential equation that involves finding a function or set of functions that satisfy a given equation and initial conditions. The initial conditions specify the values of the function(s) at a specific point or set of points.

2. What is an ordinary differential equation (ODE)?

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3. How do you solve an initial value problem?

The solution to an initial value problem involves finding a function or set of functions that satisfy the given equation and initial conditions. This can be done analytically, using various techniques such as separation of variables, substitution, or integration. Alternatively, numerical methods can be used to approximate the solution.

4. What are the types of initial value problems?

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