In dealing with differential equations

In summary, the online program does not accept a solution for x(t) = k that is equal to c or K. The only solutions that are accepted are those that involve the variable t.
  • #1
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Ok, I've been working this one out for a while, and I just can't seem to get it.

I'm looking for the condition such that x(t)=k (where in our class, K generally equals e^c)

The initial equation is as such:

7t^2(dx/dt)+3x+5=0

I've worked the equation down to two different forms:

x = (-e^((3/7t)-3c)-5)/3

and

x = c*e^(3/7t) - 3/5

For the life of me, I can't figure out what K (or C I suppose) equals in order so that x(t) = k

This is online work, and it only accepts a precise answer for credit.

It's also not letting me enter the variable t as an answer for c (or K), so I'm wondering if there's maybe an error in what was programmed as the correct answer.

I'm sure there's something I'm missing or another way that I need to work the problem. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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  • #2
You didn't show all your steps but I assume one of your steps might have been:

[tex]\ln (3x+5) = \frac 3 {7t} + 3C[/tex]

leading to

[tex]3x+5 = e^{\frac 3 {7t}+3C}[/tex]

You would normally write this

[tex]3x+5 = e^{3C}e^{\frac 3 {7t}}[/tex]

and rename the e3C as K. Try that.
 
  • #3
It's still not letting me enter in a variable as a solution.

I worked it out as shown (thank you).

So:

k = (ke^(3/7t) - 5)/3

or working with k = e^c

((k^3)e^(3/7t)-5)/3

In either case, it's still not letting me enter in any variables. If there's a solution to this problem that's all constants, I can't seem to find it. The only solutions I can come up with all involve the variable t.
 
  • #4
I'm a bit confused about what you're looking for. x(t)=k would only hold for some particular value of t, call it [tex]t_0[/tex] and you haven't stated such an initial condition [tex]x(t_0) =k[/tex]. Has one been specified in the problem?

Secondly you refer to a "solution to this problem that's all constants," but you have already found one, which is the particular solution [tex]x_p = -5/3[/tex]. This is of course different from an initial condition.
 
  • #5
fzero,

I punched in -5/3 and it said it was correct. When you say different initial conditions, what condition are you talking about? I'm not quite following that.
 
  • #6
What I mean is when you have an equation y' = y and are given the initial condition y(0) =1. The general solution is y = c et, but the initial condition requires that c=1. In general you need an initial condition if you want to fix an integration constant.
 

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