Implicitly difined curve, fine point with given slope.

In summary, the question asks to find the x-coordinate and y-coordinate of point P, where a curve defined by 2y^3 + 6x^2y - 12x^2 + 6y = 1 is tangent to the line y = -x with a slope of -1. The given equations are 2y^3 + 6x^2y - 12x^2 + 6y = 1 and dy/dx = (4x-2xy)/(x^2+y^2+1). The attempt at a solution involves plugging -x into the original equation, but it results in a strange expression for y.
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Homework Statement


Here is the full question.
Consider a curve defined by 2y^3 + 6x^2y - 12x^2 + 6y = 1 and dy/dx = (4x-2xy)/(x^2+y^2+1).

The line through the origin with slope -1 is tangent to the curve at point P. Find the x - coordinate and y - coordinate of point P.

Homework Equations



2y^3 + 6x^2y - 12x^2 + 6y = 1
dy/dx = (4x-2xy)/(x^2+y^2+1)

The Attempt at a Solution



The equation for the line through (o,o) with slope -1 which I found to be y = -x. I tried to plug -x back into original equation but came up with a weird expression for y.

Thanks for any help in advance.
 
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Weird in what way? Sure, the tangent line is y=(-x). You also have dy/dx=(-1), right? What's so weird about that? You'll have to tell us.
 

Related to Implicitly difined curve, fine point with given slope.

1. What is an implicitly defined curve?

An implicitly defined curve is a mathematical concept where a curve is described by an equation that cannot be directly solved for y. Instead, the curve is defined by a relationship between x and y that can only be described by an equation.

2. How is a curve defined implicitly?

A curve can be defined implicitly by an equation that relates the x and y coordinates of points on the curve. This equation cannot be solved for y, but it can be used to determine the slope of the curve at any given point.

3. What does "fine point" mean in relation to an implicitly defined curve?

"Fine point" refers to a specific point on the curve, usually one that is of interest or importance in the context of the problem. This point is often used to determine the slope of the curve at that particular location.

4. What is the significance of the slope of an implicitly defined curve?

The slope of an implicitly defined curve at a given point is important because it tells us the direction and steepness of the curve at that particular location. This information can be useful in understanding the behavior of the curve and making predictions about its behavior.

5. How is the slope of an implicitly defined curve calculated?

The slope of an implicitly defined curve at a given point can be calculated using the derivative of the equation that defines the curve. The derivative gives us the rate of change of the curve at that point, which is equivalent to the slope of the curve at that location.

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