Hyperbola conjugate,a>b questions

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In summary, the conversation discusses the standard form of a hyperbola, x^2/a^2-y^2/b^2=1, and its relationship to the eccentricity, b^2=a^2(e^2-1). It is clarified that this formula works for any values of a and b, as long as e^2-1 is a positive number. The concept of a conjugate hyperbola, which simply interchanges a and b, is also introduced. The correct formula for calculating eccentricity is given as 1+b^2/a^2, and it is noted that the conjugate hyperbola has the same asymptotes but a different sign in the equation.
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1)In a hyperbola,
x^2/a^2-y^2/b^2=1(standard form),
b^2=a^2(e^2-1)
This is in the case where b is greater than a.
But if a is greater than b?
Will that hold good correctly?

2)If you consider the conjugate hyperbola(of the standard form),what will be equation relating a,b and e?
Will it be b^2=a^2(e^2-1) or a^2=b^2(e^2-1)?
Some explanation would be helpful.This isn't my homework.I was getting most of my problems wrong,so I wanted to clarify some general things.
Thank You.
 
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hi sachin123! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)
sachin123 said:
b^2=a^2(e^2-1)
This is in the case where b is greater than a.

No, this works for any a and b.

e2 - 1 can be any positive number.

(se the PF Library on eccentricity for some more details :wink:)

And the conjugate hyperbola simply interchanges a and b in every respect.
 
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Hey tiny_tim:smile:
Thanks a lot for your help.But I saw a problem in my book,it goes:
x2/5-y2/3=1 is a hyperbola.Is it's eccentricity equal to root(8/5)?
Answer given is NO.
How is so?If I use b2=a2(e2-1),I get root(8/5).
Is it wrong then?
 
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sachin123 said:
x2/5-y2/3=1 is a hyperbola.Is it's eccentricity equal to root(8/5)?
Answer given is NO.
How is so?If I use b2=a2(e2-1),I get root(8/5).
Is it wrong then?

You seem to be using e2 = (b2 - 1)/a2 :redface:

It should be 1 + b2/a2 … see the PF Library on eccentricity :wink:
 
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Hi tiny_tim
I used e2=b2/a2+1
In the problem stated,
b2=3,a2=5.Correct?
SO when I put them in the above equation,e2 becomes 8/5 correct?
But my book says that isn't the answer(its a yes or no question).
Where am I missing?:confused:

Also,to find the conjugate hyperbola of a given hyperbola,
x2/a2-y2/b2=1, we just have to write,
x2/a2-y2/b2=-1.Am I correct?

If we write,x2/b2-y2/a2=1,it would be totally different hyperbola wouldn't it and it wouldn't be the conjugate ...correct?

Thanks a lot.
 
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hi sachin123! :smile:
sachin123 said:
Hi tiny_tim
I used e2=b2/a2+1
In the problem stated,
b2=3,a2=5.Correct?
SO when I put them in the above equation,e2 becomes 8/5 correct?
But my book says that isn't the answer(its a yes or no question).
Where am I missing?:confused:

Yes, you're right … I was completely confused about what a and b are. :redface:

On second thoughts, the book looks wrong to me.
Also,to find the conjugate hyperbola of a given hyperbola,
x2/a2-y2/b2=1, we just have to write,
x2/a2-y2/b2=-1.Am I correct?

If we write,x2/b2-y2/a2=1,it would be totally different hyperbola wouldn't it and it wouldn't be the conjugate ...correct?

Yes, right again …

conjugate hyperbolas have the same asymptotes, so it's only the sign that changes in the equation.

a and b are exchanged in the eccentricity, but not in the equation of the hyperbola itself. :smile:
 
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Thank You tim :smile:
 

Related to Hyperbola conjugate,a>b questions

1. What is a hyperbola conjugate?

A hyperbola conjugate is a second hyperbola that shares the same asymptotes and center with another hyperbola, but has a different orientation and a shorter distance between its branches.

2. How do you determine if a hyperbola conjugate has an a>b or b>a orientation?

If the hyperbola has a horizontal transverse axis (a>b), then its conjugate will have a vertical transverse axis (b>a). This can also be determined by looking at the equation of the hyperbola.

3. What is the relationship between the foci of a hyperbola and its conjugate?

The foci of a hyperbola and its conjugate are equidistant from the center of the hyperbola. This distance is equal to the difference between the values of a and b in the equation of the hyperbola.

4. How does changing the values of a and b in a hyperbola conjugate affect its shape?

Increasing the value of a will make the hyperbola wider and flatter, while increasing the value of b will make it narrower and steeper. Decreasing the values of a and b will have the opposite effect.

5. What are some real-life applications of hyperbola conjugates?

Hyperbola conjugates have many practical applications in fields such as engineering, physics, and astronomy. They are used to model the trajectories of comets, satellites, and other celestial bodies, as well as to design parabolic reflectors for telescopes and satellite dishes.

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