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There is more to evolution than just mutation. Monique had a good list in this thread
Originally posted by Superman89
Evolution is FALSE! If we evolved from monkeys, then why do monkeys still exist? Think about it.
Originally posted by FZ+
Argg! Arghhh! NOOOO!
Don't use the b-word! The mechanism of evolution itself has been proven mathematically, yes, but because evolution is a science, it is nothing about belief and we cannot state it absolutely to be true. It is simply the best we have, and it works brilliantly well.
Originally posted by Superman89
Evolution is FALSE! If we evolved from monkeys, then why do monkeys still exist? Think about it.
Originally posted by Chemicalsuperfreak
I decended from my Granma but she still exists. So do all my siblings and cousins.
Don't worry, us physicists get put down by the pure mathematicians all the time. In turn, the pure mathematicians get put down by women all the time. It's the circle of life.Originally posted by rapa-nui
My story is simple: I'm a bio major, but I'm rather insecure about my own intelligence and suffer from a bad case of physics envy. Stamp collecting and all that rot (kudos if you know what the hell I'm talking about).
This is one of those questions that 99% of physicists will respond to by sitting calmly, hands folded, and explaining that "physicists do not concern themselves with metaphysics." In reality, we should be honest, slam our fists into the table, and yell "DAMN! I hate that too!"Originally posted by Bernardo
Where did matter come from? at some point there must have been nothing or is the universe eternal? (Please don't just say the big bang - even that event must have had some cause. I can't believe energy & matter could suddely explode from nothing on it's own.)
Earth is certainly not a closed system. Look up at that big hot yellow ball in the sky!Where does all this matter & energy on Earth come from, is the Earth a closed system? If so where was all this matter that has been added to single cells to end up with me.
Originally posted by Bernardo I really need help on this evolutionary view.
If all there is is the physical word, and the nature of this world is cause and effect - what is the first cause?
Where does all this matter & energy on Earth come from, is the Earth a closed system?
Ever heard of G-protein-linked receptors?Originally posted by einsteinian77
what?
Originally posted by O Great One
Evolution is defined as a change in allele frequency over time?
Ok, then let's say I have 7 white roses and 5 red roses and I kill all of the white roses. That would be considered evolution because the red roses increased from 41.67% of the population to 100% of the population. How can that be evolution when I started out with roses and I ended up with roses and nothing new has come into existence?
Naaaaa. Don't mean to rant, but humans are a part of nature. I hate the liberal/hippie/commie idea that things humans do are unnatural. Its BS. [/rant]Originally posted by Phobos
Your killing of the white roses would be artificial selection (if nature did it, it would be natural selection).
Originally posted by russ_watters
So deciding that white roses needed to die means that through the process of natural selection, red roses won out. They are "fitter" because by the virtue of being red, they survived.
So science is a belief too then in your definition.Originally posted by einsteinian77
I don't mean science is relative what I meant was that science always changes and what it is a fact today may be a false tomorrow. Example, we once thought the universe would expand and eventually collapse now we think the universe is going to keep expanding, but then again it could collapse in itself. In science we can only see the information given we cannot make an absolute prediction nor tell an absolute about the past.
So you have just contradicted your last sentence here :)Originally posted by einsteinian77
I think that there are two worlds, a science world made up of truths and falsehoods, and a belief world made up of you. The science world exists now, and the belief world exists in the past and in the future. Science can only give you information it can't write the past or future since it isn't absolute. It is clear that evolution is a science and creation is a belief so what's the problem?