How to solve the moment questions, I tried couple of times but

In summary, the student attempted to find the moment of a point hinge due to all known forces, but was unable to do so due to a rounding error and lack of understanding of the equation.
  • #1
cracktheegg
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



Tan angle = opposite/adjacent Cos angle= adjacent/hypotenuse
Sin angle= opposite/hypotenuse

M=F*D

The Attempt at a Solution



40(2.83 sin45) -30(4.47 cos26.57) -20cos45 * 0.6 +10*0.6 sin15
=-46.82

which is not the correct answer
 
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  • #2
This is too vague.What the question?
Moment is not just F*D
Moment is force x perpendicular distance.
 
  • #3
sry, forget abt the question
 
  • #4
Find the moment about point hinge A due to all known forces
 
  • #5
ƩM[itex]_{A}[/itex] = Ʃ r x F

where r is the position vector from the force to A and F is the force vector.
 
  • #6
is 20N moment = -20(6)?
 
  • #7
20N =20*6 =60NM
30N= -97.53Nm
40N= -40sin45 *2.83=80.04NM
10N = 10sin15(6)=15.6NM

Can anyone tell me any of the forces are wrong?
 
  • #8
It's a little confusing to use equals signs like that... edited.
I assume anticlockwise is positive in your scheme.
Note the distances in the diagram are cm, not m.
cracktheegg said:
20N: 20*6 =60NM
Check the arithmetic.
30N: -97.53Nm
Please show how you got to that number. Why negative?
40N: -40sin45 *2.83=80.04NM
By plugging in numbers too soon you introduced a rounding error. It should be exactly 80. Can you see an easy way to obtain that? And you lost the minus sign.
10N: 10sin15(6)=15.6NM
Sign?

What about the two Fs?
 
  • #9
20N has a moment of 20*0.06 = +1.2Nm

x component of force moment is -30cos(60° )*0.02

y component of force moment is +30sin(60° )*0.04

40N has a moment -40*0.02 = -80Nm

10N has a moment of -10sin(15°)*6
 
  • #10
cracktheegg said:
20N has a moment of 20*0.06 = +1.2Nm

x component of force moment is -30cos(60° )*0.02

y component of force moment is +30sin(60° )*0.04

40N has a moment -40*0.02 = -80Nm

10N has a moment of -10sin(15°)*6

That all looks right. I still don't understand where the two 'F' forces come in. Do they arise in a different part of the question?
 
  • #11
There is question B, which ask what magnitude of the F will keep it equilibrium.
 
  • #12
cracktheegg said:
There is question B, which ask what magnitude of the F will keep it equilibrium.
If it is in equilibrium,Anticlockwise moment should be equal to clockwise moment.
 
  • #13
91.96= Fsin60 5.67-Fcos15
F= 91.96/ (sin60 5.67 -cos15)
=27.4N

correct?
 
  • #14
cracktheegg said:
91.96= Fsin60 5.67-Fcos15
F= 91.96/ (sin60 5.67 -cos15)
=27.4N

correct?
I get 27.48, but that's probably near enough.
 
  • #15
ty guys, you guys help me alot
 

Related to How to solve the moment questions, I tried couple of times but

1. How do I approach solving moment questions?

Solving moment questions requires a systematic approach. First, draw a free body diagram and identify all the forces acting on the object. Then, choose a pivot point and apply the equations of equilibrium to solve for the unknown moments.

2. What are the equations of equilibrium?

The equations of equilibrium are the sum of all forces in the x-direction equals 0, the sum of all forces in the y-direction equals 0, and the sum of all moments about a chosen pivot point equals 0.

3. What is a pivot point?

A pivot point is a point on the object where the moments are being calculated. It is important to choose a pivot point that will make the calculations easier, such as a point where one or more forces pass through.

4. What if I can't find a pivot point?

If you are unable to find a pivot point, you can choose any point on the object and apply the principle of moments. This states that the sum of clockwise moments equals the sum of counterclockwise moments.

5. What are some common mistakes when solving moment questions?

Some common mistakes include not including all forces in the free body diagram, using incorrect units, and not considering the direction of the forces. It is important to double check your work and use a consistent set of units throughout the calculations.

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