How stable are caves over time?

In summary, the conversation discusses the stability of caves over different time intervals. The participants mention that caves can be fairly stable over archaeological timescales, but on a geologic timescale, they are subject to erosion and may eventually collapse. Factors such as chemical degradation, external agents, and widening of caverns can contribute to cave collapse. The duration of a cave's lifespan may vary and can last for millions of years before erosion takes its toll.
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Especially over geologically significant intervals of time?

Is cave collapse inevitable?
 
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Simfish said:
Especially over geologically significant intervals of time?

Is cave collapse inevitable?
Since some of our oldest archaeolgical finds come from caves, I'd say that a lot are fairly sound. Of course there is no standard, it would vary from site to site.
 
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Well surely, as Evo says, it must depend upon conditions.

Once formed what is there to cause failure of a hole?
What actually sometimes fails is the material around the hole perhaps because of chemical degradation or Earth movement.
Sometimes the material does not fail, it is simply removed by an external agent such as the sea in the case of coastal caves, removing a whole cliff including a cave.
Sometimes the cave creating agent widens the cavern until it can no longer span the gap so the roof falls in. This happens in the case of acidic groundwaters waters in limestone regions.

go well
 
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On what sort of timescale? On an archeological timescale they are pretty stable. On a geologic one they aren't. They are a product of erosion, given enough time they are eroded away.
 
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Oh, good points. Hm, let's see - how long do most caves last, on average? I was mostly thinking geological timescales, in the millions of years.
 

Related to How stable are caves over time?

1. What factors can affect the stability of caves over time?

The stability of caves can be affected by various factors such as geological activity, changes in temperature and humidity, water flow, and human interference. These factors can cause erosion, collapse, or other changes to the cave structure.

2. How do caves form and how does this impact their stability over time?

Caves are formed through a process called speleogenesis, which involves the dissolution of soluble rocks such as limestone or gypsum by acidic water. This process can create intricate cave systems, but it also makes the caves vulnerable to changes in the water flow and chemistry, which can affect their stability over time.

3. Can the stability of caves be predicted or monitored?

Yes, the stability of caves can be predicted and monitored using various techniques such as geologic mapping, ground-penetrating radar, and remote sensing. These methods can help identify potential risks and changes in the cave structure, allowing for appropriate management and conservation measures to be taken.

4. What are some common signs of instability in a cave?

Some common signs of instability in a cave include cracks or fissures in the walls or ceilings, fallen rocks or debris, changes in water flow or levels, and unusual sounds or smells. These can indicate potential hazards and should be taken seriously for the safety of cave explorers and the preservation of the cave itself.

5. How can we ensure the long-term stability of caves?

To ensure the long-term stability of caves, it is important to understand and monitor the factors that can affect them, and to implement proper management and conservation practices. This may include limiting human access and activities in fragile cave environments, controlling water flow and chemistry, and addressing potential risks or threats to the cave system.

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