How Is Magnitude Difference Estimated from Small Variations in Energy Flux?

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In summary, we can derive an approximate expression for the magnitude difference between two objects with energy fluxes f and f+Δf by using the equation Δm = 2.5*Δf, which takes into account the small difference in flux between the two objects.
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Homework Statement


Suppose two objects have energy fluxes, f and f + Δf, where
Δf ≪ f. Derive an approximate expression for the magnitude difference
Δm between these objects. Your expression should have Δm
proportional to Δf.


Homework Equations


Δm = m2 - m1 = 2.5 * log(f1/f2)


The Attempt at a Solution


So the issue is that I'm not sure which of these solutions would be the better one to work with. However, I did make an approximation with the one as shown below and I'm not sure if it is quite accurate enough. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Attempt 1: Δm = 2.5 * log(f / f+Δf) = 2.5 * [ log(f) - log (f + Δf)]

or,

Attempt 2: Δm = 2.5 * log(f+Δf / f) = 2.5 * log(1 + Δf/f) ≈ 2.5*Δf

The second attempt seems more correct to me but I would feel more confident with a second opinion.
 
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it is important to consider the accuracy and validity of your approximations in any calculation. In this scenario, both of your attempts are valid approximations, but the second attempt may be more accurate. Let's break down each attempt to see why.

Attempt 1: This attempt uses the fact that the difference in magnitude (Δm) is proportional to the logarithm of the ratio of the two energy fluxes (f1/f2). This is a valid equation, but it does not take into account the small difference in flux (Δf) between the two objects. This means that this approximation may not be as accurate when Δf is significantly smaller than f.

Attempt 2: This attempt takes into account the small difference in flux (Δf) between the two objects by using the approximation log(1+x) ≈ x for small values of x. This means that the logarithm term in the equation can be approximated as Δf/f, which makes the equation simpler and more accurate. This is because the difference in magnitude (Δm) is now directly proportional to the difference in flux (Δf), which is what we want in this scenario.

In conclusion, both attempts are valid approximations, but the second attempt may be more accurate since it takes into account the small difference in flux between the two objects. However, it is always important to consider the context and limitations of your approximations in any scientific calculation.
 

Related to How Is Magnitude Difference Estimated from Small Variations in Energy Flux?

1. What is the definition of energy flux?

Energy flux refers to the rate at which energy is transferred per unit area, per unit time. It is a measure of the flow of energy from one object to another.

2. How is energy flux calculated?

Energy flux is calculated by dividing the amount of energy transferred by the time it takes for the transfer to occur, and then dividing that by the area over which the energy is transferred.

3. What factors affect energy flux between two objects?

The factors that affect energy flux between two objects include the temperature difference between the two objects, the distance between them, and the properties of the materials involved, such as their thermal conductivity.

4. Can energy flux be negative?

Yes, energy flux can be negative. This occurs when the direction of energy transfer is opposite to the direction of the energy gradient, such as when heat is flowing from a colder object to a warmer object.

5. How does energy flux impact the temperature of an object?

Energy flux is directly related to the amount of energy transferred between two objects. Therefore, a higher energy flux will result in a faster change in temperature for the object receiving the energy. However, the impact on temperature also depends on the thermal properties of the objects involved.

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