How is gravity considered as the weakest force?

In summary, the four main forces of nature are gravity, the electromagnetic force, the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force. Gravity is the weakest of the four forces, and it is effective over massive distances but on atomic levels it is nearly UN-detectable.
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B.M.Gray
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Between the four main forces of nature how can gravity be the weakest when gravity seems to govern the entire movement and attraction of mass within the universe.
I know that more than 80% of the universes matter and more than 90% of its mass/energy is undetectable dark forces (dark matter and energy), but for anyone of the other three main forces to be dominant over gravity it would seem like one or each of them would have to be a governing or binding force of dark fluid as well (the combination of dark matter and energy).
If someone could be as detailed as possible when explaining how and/or why gravity is the weakest force of nature I would greatly appreciate it.
 
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Well I know the Electromagnetic force is way way stronger than gravity because when you jump off a building, you won't plummet to the core of the earth, the ground will stop you. That is essentially the EM force of the outer electrons in the atoms of your body repelling the electrons in the atoms of the ground. Also the covalent and ionic bonds that hold all the individual atoms together(which is also EM).
 
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Ok. A magnet weighs what... 50 grams?

Yet I take 2 magnets and the magnetic force of the magnets, each weighing 50 grams, beats the entire freaking 10^30 something tons of the entire Earth's gravity.
 
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You don't see the other forces directly in everyday life as most objects do not have a (significant) net charge. Magnets, and the repulsion when you hit the floor give some hint how strong the electromagnetic force can be.

However, you can compare the forces between elementary particles: Calculate the gravitational attraction between two protons, and compare it with the electromagnetic interaction. You will see that those differ by a factor of 10^36 or something similar.
The strong force has a tiny range, but within that range it is even stronger.
The weak interaction is a bit tricky, but in setups where it is relevant it is much more important than gravity, too.
 
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The difference between Gravity and 'the others' is that is only has one sign; it is always attractive. So, unlike the attraction and repulsion due to the equal numbers of protons and electrons in a lump of stuff, which mostly cancel each other out, every particle in a lump of stuff is attracting every other particle in any other lump of stuff. That means gravity, despite being relatively 'weak' has an effect that goes on 'for ever' and is never canceled out.
Anyway, it's not a beauty contest. Each one will beat the other under the appropriate circumstances.
 
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I think it helps to stop thinking that gravity is a force at all, as Einstein explained it is the distortion of space. Just imaging things constantly falling faster and faster, satellites are always trying to fall to Earth as is the Earth constantly trying to fall into the Sun. Space is like water, if you get into water then the water has to move out of the way but is always trying to fill that space back up. Maybe I am wrong but this is how I see it.
 
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Mfb stated it well!
Gravity seems to be effective over massive distances, such as the span of a galaxy, but on atomic levels it is nearly UN-detectable. I like to think of the gravitational force between two nucleons vs. the strong nuclear force between them...
 
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chill_factor said:
Ok. A magnet weighs what... 50 grams?

Yet I take 2 magnets and the magnetic force of the magnets, each weighing 50 grams, beats the entire freaking 10^30 something tons of the entire Earth's gravity.
Yes but only across a short distance.Take one of your 50 gram magnets and drop it from any height anywhere on Earth.Now separate your 2 magnets by a couple of feet and measure the magnetic force.Don't know who coined the phrase weak force but it certainly seems a misnomer if you take into consideration it's universal pulling power.
 
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Because it takes a lot of mass to exert the same amount of force as the others.
 
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Buckleymanor said:
Yes but only across a short distance.
Place both magnets on the ground, on top of each other. The lower magnet now has:
- magnetic force upwards (from a tiny 50g-object)
- gravity downwards (from everything below it, including mass at close distance)

Gravity is proportional to M/r^2, and the mass of Earth is related to its radius to the third power, so the gravitational pull on the object actually increases for a larger Earth radius (at constant density), even if some parts of Earth are far away.

Repeat the same experiment in space (without that extremely big mass nearby), and you won't notice gravity between the magnets at all.
As alternative, hypothetical experiment, remove all electrons from earth, leaving only the protons and neutrons - this removes just ~1/4000 of the mass, so gravitational attraction remains nearly the same. However, the result will be a BIG explosion, as the electromagnetic repulsion is so extreme that gravity is completely negligible.
 
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Repeat the same experiment in space (without that extremely big mass nearby), and you won't notice gravity between the magnets at all.
You might not notice gravity acting on the magnets but eventualy they will with or without a big mass nearby, you can't get away from mass, distance is no object to gravity.
 

Related to How is gravity considered as the weakest force?

1. How is gravity defined as a weak force?

Gravity is considered a weak force because it is significantly weaker than the other fundamental forces in nature, such as electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces. Its strength is about 10^-38 times weaker than the strong nuclear force, which is the strongest force in nature.

2. Why is gravity considered the weakest force?

Gravity is considered the weakest force because its strength is dependent on the masses of the interacting objects. The greater the mass, the stronger the gravitational force. However, on a smaller scale, such as the atomic level, the other fundamental forces are much stronger.

3. How does the strength of gravity compare to other forces?

The strength of gravity is significantly weaker than the other fundamental forces. For example, the electromagnetic force is about 10^36 times stronger than gravity, and the strong nuclear force is about 10^38 times stronger.

4. Can gravity ever be stronger than the other forces?

No, gravity cannot be stronger than the other forces. It is a fundamental force of nature and its strength is determined by the masses of the interacting objects. Even if two extremely massive objects were to come close together, the other forces would still be significantly stronger.

5. How is gravity still able to have a significant impact on large objects if it is considered weak?

Although gravity is weaker compared to the other forces, it still has a significant impact on large objects because it acts over large distances. The other forces, such as the electromagnetic force, have a much shorter range and therefore do not have as much of an effect on large-scale objects.

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