How do I combine equations for absolute independent motion with pulleys?

In summary, the problem involves pulleys and equations derived from them. The goal is to combine the equations, specifically ##l_1+l_2=S_a+4S_d##, but the process is unclear. The suggestion is to manipulate the equations in a way that eliminates certain variables, such as ##S_c## and ##S_d##. Ultimately, the focus should be on understanding the velocity and force ratios rather than finding absolute values for the lengths.
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Homework Statement


I've been given a problem with pulleys which I have attached to this post. I've derived the equations shown in the post but I'll also write them below. What I'm struggling with is how to combine them.

Homework Equations


##l_1=S_a+2S_c##
##l_2=S_d+(S_d-S_c)##
##l_3=S_e+(S_e-S_c)##

In a similar example I've been given but with less pulleys it shows :
##l_1+l_2=S_a+4S_d##
This is the part I don't get. I don't get how the two equations combine to become that and I'm sure if I can understand that I can finish the rest.

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You can add the equations in any way you want. Something that gets rid of S_c and S_d is probably useful.

As an example, you have "+2 S_c" in the first equation and "-S_c" in the second one. You can multiply the second equation (both sides!) with two, then add the two equations.
 
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I'm not sure why you are trying to find ##l_1, l_2\ and\ l_3##. There is no absolute value for them. Changing the length of any of them does not affect the velocity ratio nor the forces.
What I think you need to know are the velocity ratios and the force ratios, which you should be able to do by inspection in a simple example like this.
I would suggest the way to deal with the forces is to label one of them F or whatever, then write the others as multiples (or fractions.)
 
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Managed to get there myself eventually but thanks for the intended help
 

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