How Can Spacecraft Travel Faster Than Light?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of the speed of light and its relationship to reference frames, as well as the effects of motion on light speed. The conversation also touches on the relativistic rocket problem and how it is impossible for an object with mass to reach the speed of light due to the geometry of spacetime.
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azice
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Lets just pretend we have a spaceship traveling in the vacuum of space with no friction from space dust whatsoever. It accelerates at a meager 10m/s. Eventually in millions of years it will near the speed of light. If nothing can go faster than the speed of light than what prevents said spaceship from passing that barrier when it gets just 10m/s below the 3x10^8 value?
 
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To keep up the acceleration you need increasingly higher power. To accelerate to the speed of light you need an infinite amount of energy since being at the speed of light (for an object with mass) corresponds to having infinite energy.

Look at
[tex]
E=\frac{m_0c^2}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}
[/tex]
to understand how the amount of energy necessary scales with the velocity.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot%281%2Fsqrt%281-x^2%29%2C{x%2C0%2C1}%29
The y-axis is the amount of total energy necessary and the x-axis is the velocity, where 1 corresponds to the speed of light.
 
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If light travels at a certain speed through fiber-optic cable, would the light get to its destination faster if the fiber-optic cable was actually a liquid, and the liquid had a substantial velocity in the same direction as the light?
 
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this is one of the toughest concepts to comprehend while starting in physics. the speed of light (C) MUST be a constant and you can see it in this way.

if youre on a spaceship going around at 100,000 km/s (1/3 of C) observers on the ground will see light going 2/3 faster than your ship. but to observers on the ship, light will still be going 300,000 km/s.
not to mention the whole infinite energy thing. took me 3 months to get a handle on this. its just something you have to learn to get past.
 
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So, if I have a second spaceship and I speed up to 100,000km and back down to zero, as I observe the light from the other ship, it will always be C? I thought light was constant only in it's local reference frame.
 
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The speed of light is constant in all reference frames, which gives rise to relativity of speed, time and length, among other properties.

No matter how fast you travel, the speed of light remains constant relative to observers in all reference frames.
 
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Grips said:
If light travels at a certain speed through fiber-optic cable, would the light get to its destination faster if the fiber-optic cable was actually a liquid, and the liquid had a substantial velocity in the same direction as the light?
Yes. Light through a medium such as fibre-optic travels slower than light in vacuum, so motion of the medium will add to the speed. But the speed will still be slower than the speed of light in vacuum (c).
 
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Grips said:
If light travels at a certain speed through fiber-optic cable, would the light get to its destination faster if the fiber-optic cable was actually a liquid, and the liquid had a substantial velocity in the same direction as the light?

OK this is your second 'liquid fiber optic' post in a different thread.
If you want an explanation on the effects of liquids on lightspeeds, read about the Fizeau experiment, where it was proven that light slows down when the light runs thru standing water, and slows down even more if the agua is moving in a direction opposite the light.

If the water (or liquid fiber-optic cable) is moving in a direction the same as light, it would be possible to get that light to equal c, or 300Km/sec, but never more than 300Km/sec.
 
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Grips said:
If light travels at a certain speed through fiber-optic cable, would the light get to its destination faster if the fiber-optic cable was actually a liquid, and the liquid had a substantial velocity in the same direction as the light?
Don't hijack another person's thread, it is considered rude.
 
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azice said:
Lets just pretend we have a spaceship traveling in the vacuum of space with no friction from space dust whatsoever. It accelerates at a meager 10m/s. Eventually in millions of years it will near the speed of light. If nothing can go faster than the speed of light than what prevents said spaceship from passing that barrier when it gets just 10m/s below the 3x10^8 value?
This is called the relativistic rocket problem. Here is a good page on it: http://www.phys.ncku.edu.tw/mirrors/physicsfaq/Relativity/SR/rocket.html

Essentially it is just due to the geometry of spacetime. No matter how fast you go and how much you accelerate you always wind up with a velocity less than c.
 
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Related to How Can Spacecraft Travel Faster Than Light?

1. How is it possible for spacecraft to travel faster than light?

According to Einstein's theory of relativity, nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, which is approximately 186,282 miles per second. However, this theory only applies to objects with mass. Spacecraft can achieve faster-than-light travel by using theoretical concepts such as wormholes, warp drive, or Alcubierre drive, which manipulate space-time to allow for faster travel without violating the laws of physics.

2. What is a wormhole and how does it enable faster-than-light travel?

A wormhole is a theoretical shortcut through space-time, also known as an Einstein-Rosen bridge. It connects two distant points in space-time, allowing for a shorter travel distance. To achieve faster-than-light travel using a wormhole, a spacecraft would enter one end of the wormhole and emerge at the other end in a different location, effectively bypassing the distance between the two points.

3. Can any spacecraft achieve faster-than-light travel?

Currently, no spacecraft has been able to achieve faster-than-light travel. The technology required for this type of travel is still purely theoretical and would require immense amounts of energy and advanced propulsion systems. However, scientists continue to research and develop new technologies that could one day make faster-than-light travel a reality.

4. Are there any limitations to faster-than-light travel?

While faster-than-light travel may be possible in theory, it is currently limited by our current understanding of physics and the technology available. It would also require a tremendous amount of energy, which may not be feasible with our current resources. Additionally, the effects of faster-than-light travel on the human body are still unknown and could present significant challenges.

5. What are the implications of faster-than-light travel for space exploration?

If faster-than-light travel becomes a reality, it would revolutionize space exploration by allowing us to travel to distant planets and galaxies in a fraction of the time it currently takes. It would also open up new possibilities for interstellar travel and potentially enable us to visit and study other habitable worlds. However, it would also bring about ethical and safety concerns that would need to be addressed before any practical use of this technology.

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