Help with proof for rational number problem

In summary, the conversation discusses the proof that for all real numbers a, if a is rational, then a + √2 is irrational. This is proven using the fact that the sum and difference of rational numbers is rational, and the given information that √2 is irrational. The proof is considered valid and no errors are found.
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Homework Statement


For all a in the set of real numbers, if a is rational, [tex]a + \sqrt{2}[/tex] is irrational.
You may use that [itex]\sqrt{2}[/itex] is irrational and the sum and difference of rational numbers is rational.

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The Attempt at a Solution



My proof seems way too simple, I don't trust it. Can anyone see anything wrong with this?

Proof:

Let a be an arbitrary rational number. Therefore a = m/n for some integers m and n (n is not 0).

Suppose [itex]a + \sqrt{2}[/itex] is rational. Therefore [tex]\frac{m}{n} + \sqrt{2} = \frac{q}{r}[/tex] where q and r are integers (r is not 0).

Therefore,
[tex] \sqrt{2} = \frac{q}{r} - \frac{m}{n}[/tex]

BUT this is a contradiction because we know that [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] is an irrational number. But since [tex]\frac{q}{r}[/tex] is rational and [tex]\frac{m}{n}[/tex] is rational, we know [tex]\frac{q}{r} - \frac{m}{n}[/tex] is rational because the difference of two rationals is rational.

Therefore [tex]\frac{m}{n} + \sqrt{2}[/tex] is irrational.

QED
 
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yep, that's right. generally, a rational plus an irrational is an irrational. Proven in the exact same way
 
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Thank you very much :D
 

Related to Help with proof for rational number problem

1. What is a rational number?

A rational number is a number that can be expressed as a ratio of two integers, where the denominator is not equal to zero. This includes fractions and whole numbers.

2. How do you prove that a number is rational?

To prove that a number is rational, you need to show that it can be written in the form a/b, where a and b are integers and b is not equal to zero. This can be done through various methods such as prime factorization, decimal expansion, or the Euclidean algorithm.

3. Can all numbers be classified as rational or irrational?

No, there are numbers that cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers and are therefore considered irrational. Examples include pi and the square root of 2.

4. How do you solve rational number problems in real life?

Rational numbers are used in many real-life scenarios, such as calculating proportions, interest rates, or distances. To solve these problems, you can use the properties of rational numbers, such as addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. It is also helpful to convert fractions to decimals or vice versa.

5. Is there a difference between a rational number and a rational function?

Yes, a rational number is a single number expressed as a ratio, while a rational function is a mathematical expression containing fractions or variables. Rational functions can also have restrictions on their variables, whereas rational numbers do not.

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