Help in deriving series expansion of Helmholtz Equation.

In summary, the conversation discusses the proof of the orthogonality of spherical bessel functions. It involves the use of spherical harmonics and the Helmholtz equation. The main focus is on proving the orthogonality property for (n=n'), (j=j') and (m=m'). The final step involves showing that \int_{0}^{a} j_{n}^{2} (\lambda_{(n,j)}r)rdr=\frac{a^{3}}{2}j^2_{n+1}(\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)}), which is still missing the variable a.
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Orthogonality of spherical bessel functions

Homework Statement



Proof of orthogonality of spherical bessel functions

The book gave
[tex]\int_{0}^{a}\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi} j_{n} (\lambda_{n,j}r) j_{n'} (\lambda_{n',j'}r) Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)\overline{Y}_{n',m'}(\theta,\phi) \sin\theta \;dr d\theta d\phi=\frac{a^{3}}{2}j^2_{n+1}(\alpha_{n+\frac{1}{2},j})[/tex]
For [itex](n=n')[/itex], [itex](j=j')[/itex] and [itex](m= m')[/itex]

I got only
[tex]\int_{0}^{a}\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi} j_{n} (\lambda_{n,j}r) j_{n'} (\lambda_{n',j'}r) Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)\overline{Y}_{n',m'}(\theta,\phi) \sin\theta \;dr d\theta d\phi=\frac{a^{2}}{2}j^2_{n+1}(\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)})[/tex]

Homework Equations



Helmholtz equation: [itex]\nabla^2 u(r,\theta,\phi)=-k u(r,\theta,\phi)[/itex] Where [itex]u_{n,m}(r,\theta,\phi)=R_{n}(r)Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)[/itex]

Where [itex]Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)=\sqrt{\frac{(2n+1)(n-m)!}{4\pi(n+m)!}} P_{n}^{m}(\cos\theta)e^{jm\phi}[/itex] is the Spherical Harmonics.

And [itex]R_{n}(r)=j_{n}(\lambda_{n,j} r)=\sqrt{\frac{\pi}{2\lambda_{n,j} r}} J_{n+1/2}(\lambda_{n,j} r)[/itex] (1) is the Spherical Bessel function.


Orthogonal properties stated that

For [itex]0\leq r \leq a [/itex] where [itex]R(0)[/itex] is finite and [itex]R(a)=0[/itex]:

[itex]R(a)=0\Rightarrow\; \lambda{n,j}=\frac{\alpha_{n,j}}{a}[/itex]

[itex]\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)\overline{Y}_{n',m'}(\theta,\phi) \sin\theta \;d\theta d\phi=0[/itex] For [itex](n\neq n')[/itex] and [itex](m\neq m')[/itex]

[itex]\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)\overline{Y}_{n',m'}(\theta,\phi) \sin\theta \;d\theta d\phi=1 [/itex] For [itex](n=n')[/itex] and [itex](m= m')[/itex](2)

And [itex]\int_{0}^{a} r J_n^2(\lambda_{n,j} r)dr=\frac {a^{2}}{2}J_{n+1}^2(\alpha_{n,j})[/itex] (3) where [itex]\alpha_{n,j}[/itex] is the j zero of the Bessel function.


The Attempt at a Solution



For [itex](n=n')[/itex], [itex](j=j')[/itex] and [itex](m= m')[/itex]

[itex]\int_{0}^{a}\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi} j_{n} (\lambda_{n,j}r) j_{n'} (\lambda_{n',j'}r) Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)\overline{Y}_{n',m'}(\theta,\phi) \sin\theta \;dr d\theta d\phi=\int_{0}^{a} j_{n}^{2} (\lambda_{n,j}r)dr\;\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}|Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)|^{2}\sin\theta \;d\theta d\phi=\int_{0}^{a} j_{n}^{2} (\lambda_{n,j}r)dr[/itex]

As the two have different independent variables and from (2), [itex]\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi}|Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)|^{2}\sin\theta \;d\theta d\phi=1[/itex]



Using (1), (3)
[tex]\int_{0}^{a}\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi} j_{n} (\lambda_{(n,j)}r) j_{n'} (\lambda_{n',j'}r) Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)\overline{Y}_{n',m'}(\theta,\phi) \sin\theta \;dr d\theta d\phi = \int_{0}^{a} j_{n}^{2} (\lambda_{(n,j)}r)rdr= \frac{\pi}{2\lambda_{(n,j)}}\int_{0}^{a} J_{n+\frac{1}{2}}^{2}(\lambda_{(n,j)}r)rd r[/tex]

[itex]R(a)=0\;\Rightarrow\;\lambda_{(n,j)}=\frac{\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)}}{a}[/itex] as [itex]\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)}[/itex] is the [itex]j^{th}[/itex] zero of [itex]J_{n+\frac{1}{2}}(\lambda_{(n,j)})[/itex]

[tex] \frac{\pi}{2\lambda_{(n,j)}}\int_{0}^{a} J_{n+\frac{1}{2}}^{2}(\lambda_{(n,j)}r)rd r= \frac{\pi}{2\lambda_{(n,j)}} \frac{a^2}{2}J_{n+\frac{3}{2}}(\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)})=\frac{a^{2}}{2}j^2_{n+1}(\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)})[/tex]

I am missing the [itex]a[/itex]. Thanks
 
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I already find proof that for [itex]0\leq r \leq a [/itex] where [itex]R(0)[/itex] is finite and [itex]R(a)=0[/itex]:

[tex]\int_{0}^{a}\int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{0}^{\pi} j_{n} (\lambda_{(n,j)}r) j_{n'} (\lambda_{n',j'}r) Y_{n,m}(\theta,\phi)\overline{Y}_{n',m'}(\theta,\phi) \sin\theta \;dr d\theta d\phi = \int_{0}^{a} j_{n}^{2} (\lambda_{(n,j)}r)rdr[/tex]

So all I need to proof is
[tex]\int_{0}^{a} j_{n}^{2} (\lambda_{(n,j)}r)rdr=\frac{a^{3}}{2}j^2_{n+1}(\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)})[/tex]


But as in the last post:
[tex]\int_{0}^{a} j_{n}^{2} (\lambda_{(n,j)}r)rdr= \frac{\pi}{2\lambda_{(n,j)}}\int_{0}^{a} J_{n+\frac{1}{2}}^{2}(\lambda_{(n,j)}r)rd r[/tex]

[itex]R(a)=0\;\Rightarrow\;\lambda_{(n,j)}=\frac{\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)}}{a}[/itex] as [itex]\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)}[/itex] is the [itex]j^{th}[/itex] zero of [itex]J_{n+\frac{1}{2}}(\lambda_{(n,j)})[/itex]

[tex] \frac{\pi}{2\lambda_{(n,j)}}\int_{0}^{a} J_{n+\frac{1}{2}}^{2}(\lambda_{(n,j)}r)rd r= \frac{\pi}{2\lambda_{(n,j)}} \frac{a^2}{2}J_{n+\frac{3}{2}}(\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)})=\frac{a^{2}}{2}j^2_{n+1}(\alpha_{(n+\frac{1}{2},j)})[/tex]

I am missing the [itex]a[/itex]. This time, it's a lot simpler and more focus, please help me on this.

Thanks
 

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1. What is the Helmholtz Equation?

The Helmholtz Equation is a partial differential equation that describes the behavior of waves in a given medium. It is commonly used in physics, engineering, and applied mathematics to study phenomena such as sound, heat transfer, and electromagnetic waves.

2. Why is it important to derive a series expansion of the Helmholtz Equation?

A series expansion of the Helmholtz Equation allows us to approximate the solution for certain boundary conditions and simplify the problem at hand. It also helps in understanding the behavior of waves in different media and designing efficient algorithms for numerical solutions.

3. What are the steps involved in deriving a series expansion of the Helmholtz Equation?

The first step is to assume a series solution and substitute it into the Helmholtz Equation. Then, by using the properties of the series, we can obtain a recurrence relation that can be solved to find the coefficients of the series. Finally, we can use these coefficients to construct the general solution of the Helmholtz Equation.

4. Are there any limitations to using a series expansion for solving the Helmholtz Equation?

Yes, there are limitations to using a series expansion for solving the Helmholtz Equation. The series may not converge for certain boundary conditions, and the accuracy of the solution may decrease as we go further in the series. Additionally, the series may not be able to capture all the intricate details of the solution.

5. How can the series expansion of the Helmholtz Equation be applied in real-world problems?

The series expansion of the Helmholtz Equation can be used to model and solve various real-world problems, such as predicting the propagation of sound waves in different environments, designing acoustic devices, and studying the behavior of electromagnetic fields. It is also utilized in fields such as seismology, acoustics, and optics.

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