Gravitational Force: Position Formula for Object Attracted

In summary: There are however some special functions that have been defined precisely to express the inverse to certain integrals, such as the Lambert W-function.In summary, the conversation discusses the creation of a formula for the position of an object attracted by a gravitational force. The formula involves the gravitational constant, mass and radius of a planet, and the object's initial distance and speed. The conversation explores different methods for finding the position formula, with one person suggesting a clever integration technique and the other pointing out the difficulty in inverting the resulting equation.
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Hi.

How can one create a formula for the position of a object attracted by a gravitational force?
Assume we have a large planet with radius [tex]r_0[/tex] and mass M, whose position almost does not change) and an object [tex]r_1[/tex] such that [tex]r_1 > r_0[/tex] units away from the center of the planet.

The objects initial speed is zero. The acceleration the object experience at a distance r such that [tex]r_1>r>r_0[/tex] is [tex]F=\frac{GM}{r^2}[/tex], where G is the gravitational constant. Now I have tried numerous ways to create a position formula for this object given only the starting distance [tex]r_1[/tex], but I have not found one. Do you have any hints for a way to find one?
 
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Well, you have:
[tex]\frac{d^{2}\tau}{dt^{2}}=-\frac{GM}{\tau^{2}}[/tex]
Multiply this with the velocity, and integrate from t=0, to some arbitrary time t, and we get:
[tex]\frac{1}{2}(\frac{d\tau}{dt})^{2}-\frac{1}{2}*0^{2}=\frac{GM}{\tau}-\frac{GM}{\tau_{1}}[/tex]
Noting that the velocity must be negative, we may simplify to:
[tex]\frac{d\tau}{dt}=-\gamma\sqrt{\frac{\tau_{1}-\tau}{\tau},\gamma=\sqrt{\frac{2GM}{\tau_{1}}}[/tex]
We may separate this, introduce the dummy variable "x", and get:
[tex]\int_{\tau_{1}}^{\tau(t)}\sqrt{\frac{x}{\tau_{1}-x}}dx=-\gamma{t} (*)[/tex]
By setting
[tex]u=\sqrt{\frac{x}{\tau_{1}-x}},x=\tau_{1}\to{u}=\infty,x=\frac{\tau_{1}u^{2}}{1+u^{2}},\frac{dx}{du}=\frac{2u}{(1+u^
{2})^{2}}[/tex]
We may rewrite the integral on the left-hand-side as follows:
[tex]\int_{\tau_{1}}^{\tau(t)}\sqrt{\frac{x}{\tau_{1}-x}}dx=-\tau_{1}\int_{x=\tau(t)}^{u=\infty}\frac{2u^{2}du}{(1+u^{2})^{2}}=-\tau_{1}(\arctan(u)-\frac{u}{1+u^{2}}\mid_{x=\tau(t)}^{u=\infty})=-\tau_{1}(\frac{\pi}{2}-\arctan(\sqrt{\frac{\tau(t)}{\tau_{1}-\tau(t)}})+\frac{\sqrt{\tau(t)(\tau_{1}-\tau(t))}}{\tau_{1}})[/tex]
Inserting this into the left-hand side of (*) yields an implicit equation for the sought function [itex]\tau(t)[/itex]

Note that we may readily find the collision time, tc:
[tex]t_{c}=\frac{\tau_{1}^{\frac{3}{2}}}{\sqrt{2GM}}(\frac{\pi}{2}-\arctan(\sqrt{\frac{\tau_{0}}{\tau_{1}-\tau_{0}}})+\frac{\sqrt{\tau_{0}(\tau_{1}-\tau_{0})}}{\tau_{1}})[/tex]
Using the relation:
[tex]\arctan(\frac{y}{x})+\arctan(\frac{x}{y})=\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex], we get:
[tex]t_{c}=\frac{\tau_{1}^{\frac{3}{2}}}{\sqrt{2GM}}(\arctan(\sqrt{\frac{\tau_{1}-\tau_{0}}{\tau_{0}}})+\frac{\sqrt{\tau_{0}(\tau_{1}-\tau_{0})}}{\tau_{1}})[/tex]
 
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This was more than I asked for, thank you! Really clever to integrate with respect to r, and not t in equation 4 (which I did, and ended up with a similar equation with an arctan term. Differentiating would give a quartic equation with (dr/dt) as variable, and constant coefficients except the last term, which was a linear function of time. Solving for this would be hard, and even harder to integrate)

Now you really solved for time with respect to r, the inverse would perhaps be hard to achieve? (if even possible, looking at the complex formula I'd say it's impossible)
 
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Indeed it would be hard to invert this expression, meaning you probably can't express the inverse through any finite combination of elementary functions.
 

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Gravitational force is a fundamental force of nature that is responsible for the attraction between objects with mass. It is also responsible for keeping planets in orbit around stars and for the formation and structure of galaxies.

How is gravitational force calculated?

The gravitational force between two objects is calculated using the universal law of gravitation, which states that the force is directly proportional to the product of the masses of the objects and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. The formula for gravitational force is F = G * (m1 * m2) / r^2, where G is the universal gravitational constant, m1 and m2 are the masses of the two objects, and r is the distance between them.

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