Genes, memes and the third replicator

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In summary, the conversation discusses an article that explores the concept of memes and their potential as a third replicator in evolution. The participants question the validity of this theory and whether it belongs in the computer science or philosophy forum. One person also brings up the potential of nanotechnology to create self-replicating entities. Overall, the article is criticized for being flawed and the speaker believes the person discussing the theory is misguided.
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It's more like a combination of pseudo-scientific biology with philosophy, but not computer science. To be honest, I find the arguments in this report to be extremely weak, and there are so many points of contention I have with the article that I think it's overall validity is too low to make it worth my time to go over those issues specifically.
 
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Their mistake, to call learning "copying". We do not "copy' information from one human to another, each person has to learn the information. The vehicle used to transport the information is neither here nor there. The amount of information is not of concern either, no human is capable of learning every bit of information available. This person sounds paranoid and a bit flaky.
 
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Evo said:
Their mistake, to call learning "copying". We do not "copy' information from one human to another, each person has to learn the information. The vehicle used to transport the information is neither here nor there. The amount of information is not of concern either, no human is capable of learning every bit of information available. This person sounds paranoid and a bit flaky.

It seems you are critiquing Richard Dawkins' meme theory, not Blackmore's observations (which is all Blackmore can claim to be making). However, what she is talking about is real. Nanotechnology has the potential to create self-replicating entities. Although I don't believe it has happened yet, it's quite reasonable to expect it can happen.

http://www.zyvex.com/nanotech/selfRep.html
 
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The New Scientist magazine has a penchant for severely flawed articles.
 
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SW VandeCarr said:
It seems you are critiquing Richard Dawkin's meme theory, not Blackmore's observations (which is all Blackmore can claim to be making). However, what she is talking about is real. Nanotechnology has the potential to create self-replicating entities. Although I don't believe it has happened yet, it's quite reasonable to expect it can happen.

http://www.zyvex.com/nanotech/selfRep.html
No, Dawkins is talking about culture. This person is out in left field, without a mitt.
 

Related to Genes, memes and the third replicator

1. What are genes, memes, and the third replicator?

Genes are units of heredity that are passed down from parents to offspring and determine physical traits. Memes are units of cultural information that are transmitted through imitation and can influence behavior and beliefs. The third replicator is a term coined by Richard Dawkins to describe the idea that ideas and behaviors can also be replicated and evolve similarly to genes and memes.

2. How do genes, memes, and the third replicator interact?

Genes, memes, and the third replicator all play a role in shaping an individual's behavior and traits. Genes provide the physical basis for traits, memes can influence behavior and beliefs, and the third replicator can perpetuate and spread certain ideas and behaviors through cultural transmission.

3. Are genes, memes, and the third replicator related to each other?

Yes, they are all forms of replicators that can evolve and influence the behavior and traits of individuals. However, they operate on different levels and have different mechanisms of transmission.

4. What are some examples of the third replicator?

Some examples of the third replicator include language, technology, and cultural norms and traditions. These ideas and behaviors can be passed down and replicated through imitation and can evolve and change over time.

5. How does the concept of the third replicator impact society?

The concept of the third replicator highlights the importance of cultural evolution and the role of ideas and behaviors in shaping society. It also emphasizes the interconnectedness of individuals and the impact of cultural transmission on our beliefs and behaviors.

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