General Engineering or Chemical?

In summary, the University of Queensland offers an optional first year general engineering program, with the option to specialize in Chemical Engineering. Some students have expressed concerns about choosing between the two options, with worries about spending a year learning material they may not use in the general program, or potentially finding out that Chemical Engineering is not for them after it's too late to change. However, others argue that starting in Chemical Engineering can give students a better understanding of what the program entails. At some schools, the first year for engineering students is intense and time-consuming, and students are not expected to declare their specialization early. The chemical engineering program at some schools may involve less chemistry than expected, with a focus on thermodynamics and other engineering principles. Ultimately, students
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What_Is_X?
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So the University of Queensland offers an optional first year general engineering program; at which point you choose a specialization. Alternatively, I think I can just jump straight into Chemical Engineering, which I'm pretty sure is the one i want. I can't know for sure until i get some experience with it though, so maybe I should do a general first year :/

My main worries are
General: spend a year learning a majority of stuff that i won't directly use. However, that could still be useful, and i might still enjoy it
Chem: If i find it's not actually for me I'll be in the proverbial creek without a paddle.

Not an immediate concern, since I have to choose in around 6 months but I figured it can't hurt to decide early. Anyone got any advice?
 
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Why are you going into chemical engineering? If it's not at least fairly interesting to you (as in, you've wanted to do it for at least a year and aren't doing it because chemical engineers make a lot of money or something), I say don't risk it and do the year in general engineering.
 
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If you're not going to lose any time for choosing general over chem, then I'd choose the general option to give you more time to think about and find out which specialization you want.
 
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At my school, a lot of people find that they hate chemical engineering after it's pretty much too late to change. For this, I'd say to start out in chemical engineering so you know what exactly you're getting into. (I'm a chemE too)
 
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OP, that's the model used by the engineering school I attended. All Freshmen took the same bank of courses for the first year, then declared. The chemistry, physics, and calculus courses were all accelerated 2x compared to those taken by other science majors (including pre-med - I had to help my pre-med roommate with his chem and physics homework). The first year for engineering students was actually pretty intense and time-consuming. There was no need to declare early, nor were students expected to. The only real exception to this were the few incoming freshmen that were selected to receive Pulp and Paper foundation scholarships. They were asked to commit (non-binding) to a 5-year program with upper-years emphasis on research and intensive study of processes unique to pulp and paper. All other Freshmen were undeclared.
 
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Beyond what has been said why don't you post the differences in any classes you'd be taking during the first year of each. I'd be surprised if there was much difference. Whatever specialization towards Chem that there is, should be very slight. There are too many basics that apply across the board to specialize much in the first year. You'd probably barely be IN the creek, much less in need of a paddle.
 
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Angry Citizen said:
Why are you going into chemical engineering? If it's not at least fairly interesting to you (as in, you've wanted to do it for at least a year and aren't doing it because chemical engineers make a lot of money or something), I say don't risk it and do the year in general engineering.
I'm not quite sure i follow... I'm not doing chemical engineering at the moment because I'm in year 12. I want to do chemical engineering because I've always had an interest and ability in chemistry, and I'm pretty good at maths.

@S_Happens, I'm not sure if there actually is a course list for general engineering...
http://www.uq.edu.au/study/program_list.html?acad_prog=2001
the above link shows the course list for each specialisation (chemE at the top) :/
 
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At my school, a lot of people find that they hate chemical engineering after it's pretty much too late to change.
quoted for truth... not much chemistry involved.
 
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General_Sax said:
quoted for truth... not much chemistry involved.
Seriously? Can you elaborate?
 
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Well I transferred from ChemE -> CompSci, but at the level I got to there was not very much chemistry, and the chemistry that was involved was not like general Chem. I took Organic Chem, but never really got the chance to use very much of it at all.

It was a lot of thermodynamics, which sounds sexy and cool, but was basically finding out if the water inside the cylinder is steam or not.
 
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What_Is_X? said:
Seriously? Can you elaborate?

Yes, it is true. I'm actually finishing my general first year of engg. and have to rank my preferences in a month. Anyway, at my school the chemical engineering program only involves 4 proper chemistry courses offered by the chemical department (out of the 40+ required by the program), all of which are specifically made for engineers:

CHEM 209 General Chemistry for Engineers
CHEM 357 Industrial Organic Chemistry for Engineers
CHEM 409 Applied Chemistry and Chemical Pathways for Engineers
CHEM 579 Surface and Colloid Chemistry for Engineers

Nearly all of the main chemical engineering courses deal with thermodynamics, fluid dynamics in pipe flows and chemical processes at the industrial level.
 

Related to General Engineering or Chemical?

1. What is the difference between general engineering and chemical engineering?

General engineering is a broad field that involves the application of scientific and mathematical principles to design, develop, and maintain various systems and processes. Chemical engineering, on the other hand, focuses specifically on the transformation of raw materials into useful products through chemical reactions and processes.

2. What are the main job responsibilities of a general engineer?

A general engineer may work in a variety of industries and their job responsibilities will vary accordingly. However, some common tasks may include designing and testing products, overseeing manufacturing processes, and troubleshooting technical issues.

3. How is chemical engineering used in everyday life?

Chemical engineering plays a crucial role in our everyday lives by contributing to the production of a wide range of products such as food, medicines, cosmetics, and household items. It is also involved in the development of cleaner and more sustainable energy sources.

4. What skills are required to become a successful general engineer?

A successful general engineer should have a strong foundation in math and science, critical thinking and problem-solving skills, attention to detail, and the ability to work well in a team. Good communication and project management skills are also important in this field.

5. Is a degree in chemical engineering necessary to work in the field?

While a degree in chemical engineering is typically required for most entry-level positions in this field, there are also opportunities for individuals with a background in chemistry, biology, or other related fields. However, a degree in chemical engineering provides a more comprehensive understanding of the subject and can lead to better job prospects and career advancement.

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