Gas flow from high to low pressure

In summary, the gas will flow from high to low pressure as the pressure decreases in the tank. The back flow of air can be controlled by appropriate design and management of the equipment.
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I'm about 99% sure I already answered this question for myself but just wanted to make sure my logic was correct, so if anyone could help me out it would be much appreciated.

If an open vessel that was initially P=150atm of a pure gas is currently letting gas out and it closes at exactly 1atm, will any gasses or air from the surroundings some how mix with the gas in the vessel while its open? Also assuming surrounding atmosphere has P=1atm. I realize that gasses always flow from high to low pressure, but within this hypothetical opening, could any bit of other gases or air sneak into the tank?
 
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Yes. Gas molecules have a speed distribution (Maxwell-Boltzmann) that allows some of them to 'shoot into the hole' . It's a diffusion process (there is something of a mean free path length that works opposite). So it won't be much, but it's not excluded.
 
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The flow velocity of the discharging gas will go from very high to very low as the tank pressure drops .

Probability of air getting back into tank is very low to begin with but will get higher as flow velocity decreases .

The real danger time is when pressures are coming near to being balanced and flow velocity is approaching zero .

Back flow of air can be controlled to some extent by suitable design and management of equipment . In particular by making discharge valve flow area relatively small and stopping the gas discharge when there is still a small positive pressure in tank .

The velocity of flow at any point in time during gas discharge can be estimated reasonably accurately for a real tank and valve . Perhaps someone else can relate flow velocity to diffusion back flow rates .
 
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There are processes for ensuring that minimal back flow of air occurs .

In one process the gas is discharged into a vacuum chamber . Pumps maintain the vacuum and transfer the gas either to atmosphere or more commonly to recycling plant .

There is also a two stage process where the tank discharges from high to low pressure by simple venting and then pumps take over for the final purging right down to vacuum levels before new pure gas is reintroduced .

Some problems with high levels of air backflowing into gas tanks just occur because of human error . Most common one is having a warm tank with the discharge valve left slightly open . Tank cools down and air is sucked in .
 
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Related to Gas flow from high to low pressure

1. How does gas flow from high to low pressure?

The movement of gas from a high pressure area to a low pressure area is driven by the natural tendency of gases to spread out and occupy the available volume. This process is known as diffusion.

2. What factors affect the rate of gas flow from high to low pressure?

Several factors can influence the rate of gas flow, including the pressure gradient, the temperature of the gas, and the molecular weight of the gas. Higher pressure gradients, higher temperatures, and lighter molecules all tend to increase the rate of flow.

3. Why does gas flow from high to low pressure?

This movement occurs because gases have the ability to move and spread out freely. In a high pressure area, the gas molecules are closer together and collide more frequently, creating a higher pressure. In a low pressure area, the gas molecules are more spread out, resulting in a lower pressure. The gas will naturally flow from the high pressure area to the low pressure area to equalize the pressure.

4. What is the difference between gas flow from high to low pressure and gas compression?

Gas flow from high to low pressure is a natural process that occurs without any external force or energy input. On the other hand, gas compression involves using external energy, such as a compressor, to increase the pressure of a gas.

5. Can gas flow from high to low pressure be reversed?

Yes, gas flow from high to low pressure can be reversed by creating a pressure gradient in the opposite direction. This can be achieved by using a compressor to increase the pressure in the low pressure area, causing the gas to flow back towards the high pressure area.

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