How is the Second Equation in Quantum Geometry Derived?

In summary, the conversation is discussing a link to an article about quantum geometry and how the second equation, f'(x)=f(x)-f(qx)/(1-q)x, was derived. The website in question is primarily promoting the author's book and does not provide enough information to fully understand the equation. The equation is a finite difference approximation to the ordinary derivative, with q approaching 1. The conversation also mentions the possibility of the author using this as a tactic to sell their book.
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in the next link there is an article about quantum geometry:http://www.maths.qmw.ac.uk/~majid/qgeom.html
i would like to know how was the second equation derived?:
f'(x)=f(x)-f(qx)/(1-q)x.
 
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Originally posted by loop quantum gravity
in the next link there is an article about quantum geometry:http://www.maths.qmw.ac.uk/~majid/qgeom.html
i would like to know how was the second equation derived?:
f'(x)=f(x)-f(qx)/(1-q)x.

Hello Loop,

What Majid means by "quantum geometry" is very different from what Abhay Ashtekar means by it----that is, what it means in the context of LQG.

Majid's website is largely an advertisement for Majid's personality and Majid's book. He does not explain enough so that one can derive anything.

I think you left off a couple of parentheses when you copied
f'(x) = (f(x)-f(qx))/(1-q)x.

This is a finite difference approximation to the ordinary derivative f'(x)
which is the limit of that expression as q --> 1
If you make q very close to 1 then that formula will tend to approach the ordinary derivative. Like, try 0.999 for q.
So what's the big deal?

It strikes me as teasing instead of teaching----he tells just enough to get you interested and then tries to sell you his book.
 
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Quantum geometry is a branch of mathematics that combines concepts from quantum mechanics and differential geometry to study the geometric structure of space at the quantum level. It is a relatively new field that has emerged from the need to reconcile the principles of quantum mechanics, which govern the behavior of particles at the subatomic level, with the principles of general relativity, which describe the behavior of space and time at large scales.

The article in the provided link discusses the basic principles of quantum geometry and its applications in physics and mathematics. The second equation, f'(x)=f(x)-f(qx)/(1-q)x, is derived from the concept of a q-derivative, which is a generalization of the ordinary derivative used in calculus. In this case, the q-derivative is defined as a function that satisfies the following properties:

1. Linearity: f'(x+y) = f'(x) + f'(y)
2. Leibniz rule: f'(xy) = xf'(y) + qyf'(x)
3. q-Chain rule: f'(qx) = (1-q)x f'(x)

Using these properties, the author of the article derived the second equation by applying the q-Chain rule to the function f(qx). This allows us to express the q-derivative of f(qx) in terms of the q-derivative of f(x), which is given by f'(x). The resulting equation is then rearranged to obtain the desired form, f'(x)=f(x)-f(qx)/(1-q)x.

Overall, the second equation is derived from the fundamental principles of q-derivatives and is an important tool in studying the geometry of space at the quantum level. It allows us to understand how the geometry of space changes when we consider quantum effects, and has applications in various fields such as quantum gravity, quantum field theory, and quantum information theory.
 

1. What is quantum geometry?

Quantum geometry is a branch of physics that combines the principles of quantum mechanics and general relativity to describe the fabric of space and time at the smallest scales. It seeks to understand the fundamental structure of the universe and how it behaves at the quantum level.

2. How does quantum geometry differ from classical geometry?

Classical geometry, also known as Euclidean geometry, is the study of the properties and relationships of points, lines, and shapes in a continuous and smooth space. Quantum geometry, on the other hand, takes into account the discrete and probabilistic nature of space and time at the quantum level, where particles and energy are constantly fluctuating and interacting in unpredictable ways.

3. What are some practical applications of quantum geometry?

Quantum geometry has potential applications in various fields such as quantum computing, where the principles of quantum mechanics can be used to perform complex calculations faster and more efficiently. It can also help in developing new materials with unique properties, such as superconductors, and in understanding the behavior of matter and energy in extreme conditions, such as black holes.

4. How is quantum geometry related to string theory?

String theory is a theoretical framework that attempts to unify the four fundamental forces of nature by describing all particles and interactions in terms of tiny, vibrating strings. Quantum geometry plays a crucial role in string theory as it provides the mathematical tools to describe the higher-dimensional spaces where these strings exist.

5. Is there any experimental evidence for quantum geometry?

While there is no direct experimental evidence for quantum geometry yet, many predictions of quantum geometry have been confirmed through experiments, such as the existence of black holes, the behavior of particles at high energies, and the structure of the early universe. Ongoing research and advancements in technology may provide more evidence in the future.

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