For any open interval containing limsup s_n, there exists infinitely many s_n .

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In summary, the statement says that for any open interval containing the limit superior of a bounded sequence, there exists infinitely many terms of the sequence inside that interval. This is because an open interval allows for the existence of an epsilon neighborhood around the limit superior, ensuring that there are infinitely many terms inside the interval. This does not hold for closed intervals, as they may only contain a finite number of terms, making it impossible for the limit superior to be the actual limit of the sequence.
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For any open interval containing limsup s_n, there exists infinitely many s_n...

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Suppose that the sequence [tex](s_n)[/tex] is bounded in [tex]\mathbb{R}[/tex]. Prove: Given any open interval containing [tex]\limsup s_n[/tex], there exists infinitely many [tex]n[/tex] with [tex]s_n[/tex] inside that interval.


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In light of the given statement, what is the issue with "open interval"? That is, does this statement hold (or not hold) if it said "closed interval" instead? And why?
 
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A singleton is a closed interval which is not an infinite set, and thus can't contain an infinite set. Every non-singleton real interval contains an open interval, so the theorem holds for this more convoluted object. It is much easier to say open interval.
 
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Call your limsup L. The point to saying the interval is open is that you then can find an epsilon such that (L-epsilon,L+epsilon) is contained in the interval. Suppose that subinterval contains only finitely many sn's. Then can L really be the limsup?
 
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@Dick
I understand perfectly the [tex](L - \varepsilon, L + \varepsilon)[/tex] argument --- in fact, that was how I proved the original (unmodified) statement. But thanks for the input :)

@slider142
Ahh... I see, so the only reason of using the phrase "open interval" is to avoid trivial cases where a closed interval is a singleton / contains only one point. Great! Thanks :)
 

Related to For any open interval containing limsup s_n, there exists infinitely many s_n .

What does "limsup s_n" mean?

"limsup s_n" refers to the limit superior of a sequence, which is the largest limit point of the sequence. It is also known as the upper limit or the supremum of the set of all limit points.

What is an open interval?

An open interval is a set of real numbers that includes all values between two given numbers, but does not include the numbers themselves. It can be represented as (a,b), where a and b are the endpoints of the interval.

Why does the statement mention "infinitely many s_n"?

The statement states that for any open interval containing the limit superior of a sequence, there will always be infinitely many terms of the sequence within that interval. This is because the limit superior is the largest limit point, and there may be infinite limit points within the interval.

How is "limsup s_n" calculated?

To calculate the limit superior of a sequence, you first take the supremum of the set of all limit points. This is the largest possible limit point of the sequence. Then, you take the limit of the sequence as n approaches infinity, and this will give you the limit superior.

Why is the limit superior important?

The limit superior is an important concept in analysis and is used to determine the convergence or divergence of a sequence. If the limit superior is finite, the sequence is said to converge. If the limit superior is infinite, the sequence is said to diverge. It also helps in proving the existence of limit points and subsequential limits of a sequence.

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