First test of divergence lim n-> n / 8^n

In summary, the conversation discusses the convergence of the series n/8^n. The solution is found to be 8/49 and this is confirmed using the d'Alembert's ratio test. The test shows that the series converges.
  • #1
Kyousik
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Homework Statement


n / 8^n

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


It converges to 8 / 49? Not sure how.

First test of divergence
lim n-> n / 8^n. infinity / infinity = 1. BUT bottom grows fast.
Using L`Hospital
lim n -> 1 / 3*8^n*ln(2) ---> goes to 0

Tried to use the ratio test

[ 1 / 3*8^(n+1)*ln(2) ] * [ 3*8^n*ln(2) ]
1/8 is left from the ratio test
 
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  • #2
What do you mean by "n / 8^n".
This is not a clear problem statement.
And how did you come to guessing the solution as 8/49?

Do you mean you have to calculate Sum[n / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] ?
If this is what you mean, then indeed 8/49 is the correct answer.
(I did more effort to guess what you meant than yourself to explain your need)

My hint:

Sum[1 / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] is an easy series
Sum[1 / 8^(x*n),{n,0,Infinity}] is just as easy
Sum[n / 8^(x*n),{n,0,Infinity}] is related to the previous one by a simple operation
Sum[n / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] is a special case of the previous
 
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  • #3
lalbatros said:
My hint:

Sum[1 / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] is an easy series
Sum[1 / 8^(x*n),{n,0,Infinity}] is just as easy
Sum[n / 8^(x*n),{n,0,Infinity}] is related to the previous one by a simple operation
Sum[n / 8^n,{n,0,Infinity}] is a special case of the previous
That's cute. I would have used (x/8)^n, myself.
 
  • #4
this series obviously converges.
Here is a little analysis on how to come to this conclusion.
Are you familiar with Dallambers covergence test( i am not sure if it is spelled dallamber, however)?
It states that if limn->infinity a_(n+1)/a_n is larger than 1 it diverges, if it is smaller than 1, and positive it converges. so

lim n->infinitya_n+1/a_n=lim n->infinity[8^n(n+1)]/[8n*8^n]=lim n->infinity(n+1)/8n=1/8<1, so the series converges
 
  • #5
d'Alembert's ratio test
see wiki
 

Related to First test of divergence lim n-> n / 8^n

1. What is the "First test of divergence"?

The First Test of Divergence is a mathematical test used to determine the convergence or divergence of an infinite series. It involves taking the limit as n approaches infinity of the ratio of the (n+1)th term to the nth term. If this limit is equal to a non-zero number, the series diverges. If the limit is equal to zero or does not exist, the series converges.

2. How is the First Test of Divergence used in mathematics?

The First Test of Divergence is used to determine whether a given infinite series converges or diverges. It is particularly useful for series where the nth term does not approach zero, as it allows for a quicker determination of convergence or divergence.

3. What does "lim n-> n / 8^n" mean in the First Test of Divergence?

"lim n-> n / 8^n" represents the limit as n approaches infinity of the ratio of the (n+1)th term to the nth term in a given infinite series. In other words, it represents the value that is evaluated in the First Test of Divergence to determine the convergence or divergence of the series.

4. Can the First Test of Divergence be applied to all infinite series?

No, the First Test of Divergence can only be applied to infinite series with non-negative terms. Additionally, it is only applicable in certain cases and may not always provide a conclusive result for determining convergence or divergence. Other tests, such as the Ratio Test or the Root Test, may need to be used in conjunction with the First Test of Divergence to determine the convergence or divergence of a series.

5. How is the First Test of Divergence related to other convergence tests?

The First Test of Divergence is a basic test for determining the convergence or divergence of an infinite series. It is often used as a preliminary test before applying other, more advanced tests such as the Ratio Test, the Root Test, or the Integral Test. These tests may provide more precise or conclusive results, but the First Test of Divergence can often give a quick indication of the convergence or divergence of a series.

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