Finding velocity given potentials of two parallel plates

In summary, the proton moves rightward between two parallel plates and slows down from an initial speed of 90.0 km/s.
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Sho Kano
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Homework Statement


A charged particle (either an electron or a proton) is moving rightward between two parallel charged plates separated by distance d=2.87mm. The plate potentials are V1=-75.8V and V2=-49V. The particle is slowing from an initial speed of 90.0 km/s at the left plate. What is its speed just as it reaches plate 2?

Homework Equations


U = qV
W = ΔKE
KE = 1/2mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


The particle is a proton because it is slowing down towards a plate of higher potential.

Attempt #1 using energy,
[itex] { U }_{ 0 }\quad +\quad { K }_{ 0 }\quad =\quad { U }_{ f }\quad +\quad { K }_{ f }\\ { U }_{ 0 }\quad -\quad { U }_{ f }\quad +\quad { K }_{ 0 }\quad =\quad { K }_{ f }\\ \frac { 2 }{ { m }_{ p } } { [q }_{ p }{ V }_{ 0 }\quad -\quad { q }_{ p }{ V }_{ f }\quad +\quad \frac { 1 }{ 2 } { m }_{ p }{ v }_{ 0 }^{ 2 }]\quad =\quad { v }_{ f }^{ 2 }\\ 1.2e27*[-1.2e-17\quad +\quad 7.84e-18\quad +\quad 6.76e-18]\quad =\quad { v }_{ f }^{ 2 }\\ { v }_{ f }\quad =\quad 54448.79\quad m/s[/itex]

Attempt #2 using energy
[itex]W\quad =\quad \Delta K\\ q\Delta V\quad =\quad Kf\quad -\quad Ki\\ q\Delta V\quad +\quad Ki\quad =\quad Kf\\ \frac { 2 }{ 1.67e-27 } [26.8*1.6e-19\quad +\quad 0.5*1.67e-27*{ 90000 }^{ 2 }]\quad =\quad { v }f^{ 2 }\\ vf\quad \neq \quad 54448.79[/itex]

Is 54448 m/s the correct answer? How come when I use the work energy theorem, the answer doesn't come out right? I noticed if I change the W done in attempt #2 to negative, the answer matches that of attempt #1... why?
 
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It should be ##-q \Delta V## for work, as the work done is the integral over the negative of the force.
 
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mfb said:
It should be ##-q \Delta V## for work, as the work done is the integral over the negative of the force.
I thought work was the positive integral of force, I've heard of voltage being the negative integral of electric field, but not this.
 
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mfb said:
It should be ##-q \Delta V## for work, as the work done is the integral over the negative of the force.
There is a negative in gravitational potential energy formula, but that is because negative work is done for an object to get closer to earth. So in this case, negative work is done to "slow" down the proton? (or get the proton closer to the less positive plate?)
 

Related to Finding velocity given potentials of two parallel plates

1. How can the velocity be calculated using the potentials of two parallel plates?

To calculate the velocity, we can use the equation v = (U2 - U1) / d, where U2 and U1 are the potentials of the two plates and d is the distance between them.

2. What are the units of velocity in this scenario?

The units of velocity in this scenario will depend on the units used for the potentials and distance. If the potentials are in volts and the distance is in meters, then the velocity will be in meters per second (m/s).

3. Can the velocity be negative in this situation?

Yes, the velocity can be negative in this situation. A negative velocity indicates that the direction of flow is opposite to the direction of increasing potential.

4. Is the velocity constant between the two plates?

No, the velocity is not constant between the two plates. The electric field between the plates is constant, but the velocity will vary depending on the distance from the plates.

5. How does the distance between the plates affect the velocity?

The distance between the plates has an inverse relationship with the velocity. As the distance decreases, the velocity increases and vice versa. This is because a smaller distance between the plates results in a larger potential difference, leading to a higher velocity.

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