Finding Max & Min of f & g: A Comparison

In summary, the conversation discusses definitions of functions using max and min operators, and how to apply these definitions to specific examples. It also includes a question about graphing these functions and a problem involving proving a relationship between two functions.
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Homework Statement



(a) Let f,g: [a,b] [tex]\rightarrow[/tex] [tex]\Re[/tex].

Define: f [tex]\vee[/tex] g(x) = max(f(x),g(x)), x[tex]\in[/tex] [a,b]
f [tex]\wedge[/tex] g(x) = min(f(x),g(x)), x[tex]\in[/tex] [a,b]

(b) Let [tex]f_{+}[/tex] = f[tex]\vee[/tex]0, [tex]f_{-}[/tex] = -(f[tex]\wedge[/tex]0)
Show that: f = [tex]f_{+}[/tex] - [tex]f_{-}[/tex]
abs value of f = [tex]f_{+}[/tex] + [tex]f_{-}[/tex]

Homework Equations



[tex]f_{+}[/tex], [tex]f_{-}[/tex] [tex]\geq[/tex] 0

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) f [tex]\vee[/tex] g(x) equals the supremum and infimum for f [tex]\wedge[/tex] g(x). Supremum would be "b" for both f and g, and infimum of both would be "a"??

(b) Lost with this one. It relates to the first question I know, but trying to put them together hasn't been working.
 
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jdz86 said:

Homework Statement



(a) Let f,g: [a,b] [tex]\rightarrow[/tex] [tex]\Re[/tex].

Define: f [tex]\vee[/tex] g(x) = max(f(x),g(x)), x[tex]\in[/tex] [a,b]
f [tex]\wedge[/tex] g(x) = min(f(x),g(x)), x[tex]\in[/tex] [a,b]

(b) Let [tex]f_{+}[/tex] = f[tex]\vee[/tex]0, [tex]f_{-}[/tex] = -(f[tex]\wedge[/tex]0)
Show that: f = [tex]f_{+}[/tex] - [tex]f_{-}[/tex]
abs value of f = [tex]f_{+}[/tex] + [tex]f_{-}[/tex]

Homework Equations



[tex]f_{+}[/tex], [tex]f_{-}[/tex] [tex]\geq[/tex] 0

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) f [tex]\vee[/tex] g(x) equals the supremum and infimum for f [tex]\wedge[/tex] g(x). Supremum would be "b" for both f and g, and infimum of both would be "a"??
NO, of course not. a and b are the smallest and largest values of x. Your functions are defined as inf and sup of f(x) and g(x), the function values.
What exactly are you trying to do here? In (a) you are given two definitions but I see no question!

(b) Lost with this one. It relates to the first question I know, but trying to put them together hasn't been working.
Again, what was the first question? What is f+- f- and f++ f- for individual values of x? Try looking at specific f and g functions. Suppose f(x)= 2x, g(x)= x. What are f+ and f-?
 
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yep, definitely wrote it wrong, (a) was what was given, thought it was a question.

the question was something like this: using what was given, graph each of the following on the given axis, f(x),g(x), f [tex]\wedge[/tex]
g, f [tex]\vee[/tex] g:
f(x)=sinx, g(x)=cosx, x in [0,2pi] and graph f(x)=x(x-1)(x-2)(x-3), g(x)=0, x in [0,3]

and then (b) above was correct, using what was defined show that
 
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Related to Finding Max & Min of f & g: A Comparison

1. What is the purpose of finding the maximum and minimum of f and g?

The purpose of finding the maximum and minimum of f and g is to identify the highest and lowest points of a given function. This information is useful for understanding the behavior and characteristics of the function, as well as for solving optimization problems.

2. How do you find the maximum and minimum of a function?

To find the maximum and minimum of a function, you can use calculus techniques such as taking the derivative and setting it equal to zero to find critical points, and then using the second derivative test or a graphing calculator to determine whether these points are maximum or minimum values.

3. Can f and g have the same maximum or minimum value?

Yes, it is possible for f and g to have the same maximum or minimum value. This can occur when the two functions intersect or have the same behavior at a particular point.

4. How does finding the maximum and minimum of f and g differ from finding the absolute maximum and minimum?

Finding the maximum and minimum of f and g involves finding the highest and lowest values of the functions, whereas finding the absolute maximum and minimum involves finding the highest and lowest values of the entire function over a given interval.

5. Why is it important to compare the maximum and minimum of f and g?

Comparing the maximum and minimum of f and g allows us to understand the relationship between the two functions and how they behave in relation to each other. This can provide valuable insights and aid in solving optimization problems involving multiple functions.

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