Finding a Min or Max point without knowing the function

In summary, we can conclude that for x=0, h(x) has a local minimum and is not affected by the differentiability of f. However, f does affect the value of the local minimum and the locations of zeroes for h(x).
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Yankel
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Hello,

I have this simple problem:

f(x) and g(x) are both differentiable. f is monotonically increasing for every x. g has a local min at x=0. we define h to be h(x)=f(g(x)).

Can we say anything about x=0 for h(x) ?

I used the chain rule to find that h'(x) = f'(g(x))*g'(x). at x=0 g'(x)=0, so h'(0) = 0 as well. is it possible to say if x=0 is min, max, or isn't is possible ?

thank you in advance.
 
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We can tell that g(x) is locally increasing for x > 0. Therefore h(x) is locally increasing for x > 0 as well.
And g(x) is locally decreasing for x < 0, so h(x) is locally decreasing for x < 0 as well.
Consequently h(x) has a local minimum at x=0.
Differentiability of any of the functions is not needed.
 
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right, so f has no effect on h ?
 
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Yankel said:
right, so f has no effect on h ?

Well, f doesn't affect the locations of the extrema, but it does affect the value of those extrema.
And f will also affect the locations of zeroes.
 

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1. How can you find the minimum or maximum point of a function without knowing the function itself?

The most common method is using the derivative test, where you take the derivative of the function and set it equal to zero. The resulting value will be the x-coordinate of the minimum or maximum point. Then, you can use the second derivative test to determine if it is a minimum or maximum point.

2. Is it possible to find the minimum or maximum point without using calculus?

Yes, it is possible to use graphical methods to estimate the minimum or maximum point. This involves plotting the points on a graph and visually determining the point with the lowest or highest y-value.

3. Can you use algebra to find the minimum or maximum point?

Yes, some functions may have specific patterns or characteristics that can be identified using algebraic techniques. For example, if a function is in the form of a quadratic equation, you can use the vertex form to easily identify the minimum or maximum point.

4. Are there any limitations to finding the minimum or maximum point without knowing the function?

Yes, there are some limitations. The methods mentioned above may not work for all types of functions, and the accuracy of the estimation may vary. It is always best to have a better understanding of the function itself to find the exact minimum or maximum point.

5. Can you find the minimum or maximum point of a function with just a few data points?

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