Find the Exact length of the Polar Curve

In summary: If not, can you please copy and paste the equation into a new post and explain what is wrong?In summary, the homework statement is r=2(1+cosθ), dr/dθ=-2sinθ, and L=∫√(4cos^2θ+4sin^2θ+8cosθ+4)dθ. The attempt at a solution is r=2(1+cosθ), dr/dθ=-2sinθ, and L=∫√((2+2cosθ)^2+(-2sinθ)^2)dθ. After integrating, the answer should be 2
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Homework Statement


Find the Exact length of the Polar Curve for
r=2(1+cosθ)

No limits of Integration were given which I found to be odd.

Homework Equations



L= ∫√(r^2+(dr/dθ)^2)dθ

The Attempt at a Solution



r=2(1+cosθ)
dr/dθ=-2sinθ

L=∫√((2+2cosθ)^2+(-2sinθ)^2)dθ
=∫√(4cos^2θ+4sin^2θ+8cosθ+4)dθ
=∫√(8cosθ+8)dθ

Got to this point and figured I did something incorrectly.
 
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CitizenInsane said:

Homework Statement


r=2(1+cosθ)
It's not a good idea to put the statement of the problem only in the title! I started to say "no that is not a problem statement" until I looked up at your title!

No limits of Integration were given which I found to be odd.
Perhaps they expect you to be able to get that yourself. When [itex]\theta= 0[/itex], [itex]cos(\theta)= 1[/itex] so r= 4; when [itex]\theta= \pi/2[/itex], [itex]cos(\theta)= 0[/itex] so r= 2; when [itex]\theta= pi[/itex], [itex]cos(\theta)= -1[/itex] so r= 0; when [itex]\theta= 3\pi/2[/itex], [itex]cos(\theta)= 0[/itex] so r= 2 and when [itex]\theta= 2\pi[/itex], [itex]cos(\theta)= 1[/itex] so r= 4 again. We make one complete loop around the figure (a "cardiod" since it looks roughly like the "valentine" heart) as [itex]\theta[/itex] goes from 0 to [itex]2\pi[/itex]. That shouldn't be too surprizing since cosine has period [itex]2\pi[/itex].

Homework Equations



L= ∫√(r^2+(dr/dθ)^2)dθ

The Attempt at a Solution



r=2(1+cosθ)
dr/dθ=-2sinθ

L=∫√((2+2cosθ)^2+(-2sinθ)^2)dθ
=∫√(4cos^2θ+4sin^2θ+8cosθ+4)dθ
=∫√(8cosθ+8)dθ

Got to this point and figured I did something incorrectly.
No, that's correct. Now integrate from 0 to [itex]2\pi[/itex].
 
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Like HallsofIvy said, you should plot the polar curve: r=2(1+cosθ) to find the limits of integration. I have attached the graph to this post.
 

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Sorry for not putting enough info originally, new to the forums.
Also when I integrate, I get stuck at
=√8∫√(cosθ+1)dθ
Only step I could think of next is to u-sub what's inside the radical.
 
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CitizenInsane said:
Sorry for not putting enough info originally, new to the forums.
Also when I integrate, I get stuck at
=√8∫√(cosθ+1)dθ
Only step I could think of next is to u-sub what's inside the radical.

Try trigonometric substitution. Let [itex]\sqrt{\cos \theta}=\tan \phi[/itex]

After integrating, the answer should be: [tex]2\sqrt{8}.\sqrt{\cos \theta +1}.\tan \frac{\theta}{2}[/tex] Now, you have to put the limits and evaluate.
The problem is that for [itex]0 \leq \theta \leq 2\pi[/itex], the evaluation gives 0.

Are you sure the integral for L is correct in your first post?
 
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