Find the derivative of a function

In summary, the functional derivative measures the rate of change of a functional at a specific point or function, similar to how the scalar derivative measures the rate of change of a scalar function at a specific point. It can be thought of as a linear map that sends a function to its directional derivative at a given point.
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Homework Statement


If V=exp [ [itex]\int[/itex][itex]^{T}_{0}[/itex]s(t)dt ]

Homework Equations


What is dV/ds(k), where 0<k<T
What does this derivative even mean??

The Attempt at a Solution


write
V=exp(Y)
dV/ds(k) = dV/dY . dY/ds(k)
=V.[itex]\int[/itex][itex]^{T}_{0}[/itex]ds(t)/ds(k)dt
=V because ds(t)/ds(k) = 0 for all t except t=k where it is 1.

I just want to check that this derivative is correct; and more importantly what it means practically. Thank you very much for the help!

Regards,
 
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Hello all,
I've been thinking about the concept of the functional derivative all night/day but I still can not see the practical meaning of such a measure. Scalar derivative - no problem. It is simply the rate of change wrt the scalar variable. But when you have a function argument, and you take the rate of change with regards to just a point on that function argument, then what are you measuring exactly? Any help much appreciated! Thanks!
 
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A way to look at it:
s, f, g ##\in## M the function space; ##V:M\to \mathbb R## a functional.

- ##< f, g> = \int f(x)g(x)\,dx## is a bilinear, symetric and "almost" non-degenerate form. It associate a fuction with a form: $$f\in M \mapsto <f,\cdot> \,or\,<\cdot,f>\in M^*$$

- The Dirac delta function ##\delta (x) = \delta_0## or ##\delta(x-y) = \delta_y## ##\in## M, y fixed, is the function that correspond to the form $$<\delta_y,\cdot>\in M^*\quad s.t. \quad <\delta_y,f> = f(y)\in \mathbb R$$

- The functional derivative of a functional at the point(=function) ##g\in M## is the function ##\frac{\delta V}{\delta g}## or ##\frac{\delta V}{\delta g(x)}## (as the notations f or f(x)) such that: $$<\frac{\delta V}{\delta g},\cdot>\in M^* = \mathbf D_g V(\cdot)$$ ##D_g V(\cdot)## the derivative of V at g. It's a linear map sending a vector h at g (h=function again) to the directional derivative of V at g in the direction h:$$D_g V(\cdot): h\mapsto D_g V(h) = \lim_{\epsilon \rightarrow 0}{\frac{V(g+\epsilon h)-V(g)}{\epsilon}}\in \mathbb R$$

Then ##<\delta_y,\frac{\delta V}{\delta g}> = \frac{\delta V}{\delta g(y)}## the value of the function ##\frac{\delta V}{\delta g(x)}## at x=y.
 

Related to Find the derivative of a function

1. What is the definition of a derivative?

A derivative is a mathematical concept that represents the instantaneous rate of change of a function at a specific point. It can also be interpreted as the slope of the tangent line to a curve at a given point.

2. How do you find the derivative of a function?

To find the derivative of a function, you can use the limit definition of a derivative or apply differentiation rules such as the power rule, product rule, quotient rule, and chain rule. These rules allow you to find the derivative of a function by manipulating its algebraic expression.

3. What is the purpose of finding the derivative of a function?

The derivative of a function has various applications in mathematics and science. It can be used to find the slope of a curve, determine the maximum and minimum points of a function, and solve optimization problems. It also has practical applications in physics, economics, and engineering.

4. Can you find the derivative of any function?

In most cases, yes. However, there are some functions that are not differentiable, such as those with sharp corners or discontinuities. Additionally, some functions may have complex derivatives that require advanced techniques to calculate.

5. How does the concept of a derivative relate to the concept of a tangent line?

The derivative at a point represents the slope of the tangent line to a curve at that point. This means that as you move along the curve, the derivative gives you the instantaneous rate of change at that point, which is equivalent to the slope of the tangent line. In other words, the tangent line is a visual representation of the derivative at a specific point on the curve.

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