Find the angle between vectors r(t) and r'(t) Question?

In summary, the conversation involves a student asking for help with a midterm exam question about finding the angle theta between two vectors as a function of t and sketching its graph, as well as finding extrema and values of t for which the vectors are orthogonal. The student provides their attempted answer and asks for confirmation and assistance. Another person points out a missing component in the answer and offers guidance on how to proceed with graphing and finding extrema. The conversation ends with the student still seeking clarification and help on the problem.
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Hi everyone, i have a midterm exam tomorrow night (Thursday night) and I'm looking at problems in the section of the book to help myself prepare. Can anyone answer this question for me? I have attempted to answer this problem but without the answer i don't know if I'm right.

1. Find the angle theta between vectors r(t) and r'(t) as a function of t.
2. Sketch the graph of theta(t)
3. Find any extrema of theta(t).
4. Find any values of t which the vectors r(t) and r'(t) are orthogonal.

and they give vector r(t) = t^2 ii + t ij

And there are no typos, that's really what the question asks.

First off, i have NO idea what ii and ij mean, I'm assuming they just mean i and j?

So far i have r(t)= t^2 + t and r'(t)=2t+1 and r(t)*r'(t)=2t^3 +t
and
theta(t) = arccos( (2t^3 +t) / (sqrt(t^4+t^2) * sqrt(4t^2 +1) ))

Can anyone confirm this is right or wrong? And basically from here i have no idea what to do to answer 2-4 of the problem. My teacher said there would be a problem just like this on my exam, so i REALLY need to see this problem done out so i know what to do.

Can someone do this one out for me? It's not a homework, i just need to see it done out step by step so i can follow it, along with the answer. I have until Thursday night, so PLEASE help asap, thanks!

PLEASE help, I'm desperate.
 
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You forgot the arc cos, when using the dot product to find angle in between vectors. Parts 2,3 are standard questions regarding theta(t) once you have found it.

For part 4, you just have to use the dot product and solve t for the conditions where the 2 vectors are perpendicular.
 
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OHH! I'm sorry i did get the arccos i just didnt put it in. even still i am confused how to graph it and find the values i need... Is the function for theta(t) i have even right? (I fixed it with the arccos in the original post)
 
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anyone have any idea where to proceed if this is even correct so far? =/
 
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Yes I believe your expression for theta(t) is right. Now the tough part is graphing it.
 
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That's what I'm kind of asking, how do i graph this thing to find the extrema?

And for part 4 of the problem, do i need theta(t) at all? I have no idea how to find the values for t when r(t) and r'(t) are ortho. i know i need to do the dot product, but won't i just get theta(t)? I need help here...
 
  • #7
There might be a better way of sketching the graph quickly, but if you are presented with a completely alien function and you're told to sketch it, what's the first thing you should do?

And as for part 4, theta(t) is not the same thing as the dot product of r(t) and r'(t).
 
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Ordinarily i would graph it in my calculator. To find extrema of theta(t) i would i set the derivative of theta(t) to 0 and solve for t values to find critical points, then i would set the second derivative to 0 and do the same. Is this how i should find the extrema of theta(t)?


And I'm still stumped on part 4, please HELP! =/
 
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What is the value of [itex]\vec A \cdot \vec B[/itex] when A and B are orthogonal?
 
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HUH?? Please someone help me do the rest of this problem, i have an hour and a half before class this is important =/
 
  • #11
I did help. You should think about the answer to my question and how it applies to your problem.

If you won't take the time to think about how something might apply to your question, then maybe you deserve to get your question wrong.
 
  • #12
My question is what's A and B. Couldn't i just find t when r(t)xr'(t)=0
 
  • #13
If that 'x' is supposed to read as the dot product then you're on the right track. Just solve that equation for the values of t you'll need. As for sketching a graph, you just have to use the 1st and 2nd derivative tests for turning points and the intervals between them to see how the graph looks like.
 

Related to Find the angle between vectors r(t) and r'(t) Question?

1. What is the formula for finding the angle between two vectors?

The formula for finding the angle between two vectors is given by the dot product of the two vectors divided by the product of their magnitudes, and then taking the inverse cosine of this value. In other words, θ = cos^-1((r(t)·r'(t)) / (|r(t)|·|r'(t)|)).

2. How do I find the dot product of two vectors?

To find the dot product of two vectors, you need to multiply their respective components and then sum them together. In other words, (a1, a2, a3) · (b1, b2, b3) = a1b1 + a2b2 + a3b3. This will give you a scalar value.

3. Can the angle between two vectors be negative?

No, the angle between two vectors cannot be negative. It is always measured as a positive value between 0 and 180 degrees or 0 and π radians.

4. What does the angle between two vectors represent?

The angle between two vectors represents the amount of rotation required to align one vector with the other. It also indicates the direction of rotation, with a positive angle indicating a counterclockwise rotation and a negative angle indicating a clockwise rotation.

5. Can the angle between two vectors be greater than 180 degrees?

No, the angle between two vectors cannot be greater than 180 degrees or π radians. This is because the dot product of two vectors will always be less than or equal to the product of their magnitudes, resulting in an angle that is less than or equal to 90 degrees. If the vectors are in opposite directions, the angle between them will be 180 degrees or π radians.

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