Find tangent lines to both curves

In summary, the equation of a straight line that is tangent to the curves y = {x^2} + 4x + 1 and y = - {x^2} + 4x - 1 is (-{x_2}^2+4{x_2}-1)=-(x_1^2+4{x_1}+1).
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Homework Statement



Find the equation of all straight lines, if any, that are tangent to both the curves [itex]y = {x^2} + 4x + 1[/itex] and [itex]y = - {x^2} + 4x - 1[/itex].

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


Suppose such a line exists and its slope is m. Let [itex]({x_1},{y_1})[/itex] and [itex]({x_2},{y_2})[/itex] be the tangent points on the curves [itex]y = {x^2} + 4x + 1[/itex] and [itex]y = - {x^2} + 4x - 1[/itex] respectively.
Then [itex]{y_1} = {x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1[/itex] and [itex]{y_2} = - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1[/itex].
The slope of the curves at [itex]{x_1}[/itex] is [itex]2{x_1} + 4[/itex] and at [itex]{x_2}[/itex] is [itex]-2{x_2} + 4[/itex]. Thus [itex]m=2{x_1} + 4=-2{x_2} + 4 \Rightarrow {x_1} = - {x_2}[/itex]. Moreover, [itex]m = \frac{{{y_2} - {y_1}}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}} = \frac{{( - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1) - ({x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1)}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}} = \frac{{{y_1}}}{{{x_1}}}[/itex].
What should be the next steps here? Thanks!
 
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drawar said:

Homework Statement



Find the equation of all straight lines, if any, that are tangent to both the curves [itex]y = {x^2} + 4x + 1[/itex] and [itex]y = - {x^2} + 4x - 1[/itex].


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Suppose such a line exists and its slope is m. Let [itex]({x_1},{y_1})[/itex] and [itex]({x_2},{y_2})[/itex] be the tangent points on the curves [itex]y = {x^2} + 4x + 1[/itex] and [itex]y = - {x^2} + 4x - 1[/itex] respectively.
Then [itex]{y_1} = {x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1[/itex] and [itex]{y_2} = - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1[/itex].
The slope of the curves at [itex]{x_1}[/itex] is [itex]2{x_1} + 4[/itex] and at [itex]{x_2}[/itex] is [itex]-2{x_2} + 4[/itex]. Thus [itex]m=2{x_1} + 4=-2{x_2} + 4 \Rightarrow {x_1} = - {x_2}[/itex]. Moreover, [itex]m = \frac{{{y_2} - {y_1}}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}} = \frac{{( - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1) - ({x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1)}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}} = \frac{{{y_1}}}{{{x_1}}}[/itex].
What should be the next steps here? Thanks!
You have it nearly done.

Well, you have:
[itex]x_1=-x_2[/itex]

[itex]m=-2{x_2} + 4[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle m=\frac{{( - {x_2}^2 + 4{x_2} - 1) - ({x_1}^2 + 4{x_1} + 1)}}{{{x_2} - {x_1}}}[/itex]​

Plug -x2 in for x1 in that last equation & equate that to your other expression for m that has only x2 in it.

Solve for x2.
 
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Gosh I am so blind, thank you so much!
 

Related to Find tangent lines to both curves

1. How do I find the tangent lines to two curves?

To find the tangent lines to two curves, you need to first identify the points of intersection between the two curves. Then, you can use the derivative of each curve to calculate the slopes of the tangent lines at those points. Finally, you can use the point-slope formula to determine the equations of the tangent lines.

2. What is the point-slope formula?

The point-slope formula is a formula used to find the equation of a straight line passing through a given point and having a given slope. It is written as y - y1 = m(x - x1), where (x1, y1) is the given point and m is the given slope.

3. Can I find the tangent lines to two curves without knowing their equations?

Yes, you can still find the tangent lines to two curves without knowing their equations. As long as you have the coordinates of the points of intersection between the two curves, you can use the derivative and point-slope formula methods mentioned above to find the equations of the tangent lines.

4. Is it possible for two curves to have more than one tangent line at a point of intersection?

Yes, it is possible for two curves to have more than one tangent line at a point of intersection. This can happen when the two curves have the same slope at that point, or when the curves have a horizontal tangent line at that point.

5. What is the significance of finding the tangent lines to two curves?

Finding the tangent lines to two curves can provide valuable information about the behavior of the curves at their points of intersection. It can also help in solving problems related to optimization and rates of change, as tangent lines represent the instantaneous rate of change of a curve at a given point.

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