Find Positive Integer K for Convergent Series

In summary, the series is convergent if and only if the following condition is met:\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{n + 1}{k} < 1
  • #1
tnutty
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For which positive integers k is the following series convergent?
[tex]\sum(n!)^2/(kn)![/tex]attempt: use the ratio test.

let Bn = (n!)2 / (kn!)

let Bn+1 = ((n+1)!)^2 / (k(n+1))!


then Bn+1 / Bn =

((n+1)!)^2 / (k(n+1))! * (kn)!/(n!)^2


from manipulation I got :

(n+1)2 / k(n+1)

= (n+1) / k


if this is right (can you check please) the how would it follow to determine K such that
the following series is convergent?
 
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  • #2
Your answer is right, but needs parentheses: (n + 1)/k. As you wrote it, it would be interpreted as n + (1/k), and I don't think that's what you meant.

For the ratio test to show convergence, it must be true that
[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \frac{n + 1}{k} < 1[/tex]

Is that going to happen here?
 
  • #3
I guess not. Because for any number k, if you take the limit, then the limit
of the numerator is going to be infinity, and the denominator is just going to make it still
infinity. How would you prove this deductively?
 
  • #4
You've pretty much said what needs to be said. The idea is that k is some fixed number, so eventually, no matter how big k is, n will surpass it, and your ratio will be larger than 1.
 
  • #5
Wait, my online homework only gives the option

k ? _____

the ? is >= , <= .
 
  • #6
I don't think my work was correct. let me try again.

Root test:

[tex]\frac{((n+1)!)^2}{(k(n+1)!)^2}[/tex] x [tex]\frac{(kn)!}{(n!)^2}[/tex]

=

[tex]\frac{(n+1)^2 * (n!)^2}{k(n+1) * (kn)!}[/tex] x [tex]\frac{(kn)!}{(n!)^2}[/tex]

=

the kn! cancels out and the and the (n!)^2 cancels out

and we have



[tex]\frac{(n+1)^2}{k(n+1)}[/tex] < 1

(n+1)2 < k(n+1)

(n+1) < k

same as before.

maybe we should take a different approach.

just from induction, how about k being (n+1), that would make the bottom denominator
greater than the top.
 
  • #7
Just guessed and the answer is 2. Can you make out why, and not just from plugging in numbers
 
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  • #8
I think you might not have given us all the information.

Is this the series?
[tex]\sum_{k = 0}^\infty \frac{(n!)^2}{(kn)!}[/tex]

You didn't include the index in your post, and I was assuming the index was n. If it's k, that's a different story.
 
  • #9
tnutty said:
For which positive integers k is the following series convergent?
[tex]\sum(n!)^2/(kn)![/tex]


attempt: use the ratio test.

let Bn = (n!)2 / (kn!)

Caution: (kn!) is not the same as (kn)!

let Bn+1 = ((n+1)!)^2 / (k(n+1))!
then Bn+1 / Bn =

((n+1)!)^2 / (k(n+1))! * (kn)!/(n!)^2


from manipulation I got :

(n+1)2 / k(n+1)

= (n+1) / k


if this is right (can you check please) the how would it follow to determine K such that
the following series is convergent?
 
  • #10
Nope the index is n=1 to infinity. And for HallsofIvy, I meant to write (kn)! and not kn!.

Well if I look at the series I can see why the answer is 2 because the denominator will also be n^2.
 
  • #11
I think this move is invalid :

[tex]
\frac{((n+1)!)^2}{(k(n+1)!)^2}[/tex]

=>

[tex]
\frac{(n+1)^2 * (n!)^2}{k(n+1) * (kn)!}[/tex]

changing the (k(n+1))! to
k(n+1) * (kn)!

This has to invalid, otherwise it does not makes any sense.
 
  • #12
no takers ?
 
  • #13
still want help if you know how to
 

Related to Find Positive Integer K for Convergent Series

1. What is a convergent series?

A convergent series is a mathematical series that has a finite limit as the number of terms approaches infinity. In other words, the sum of the terms in the series eventually reaches a fixed value.

2. How do you find the value of K in a convergent series?

To find the value of K in a convergent series, you can use the formula K = lim(n->inf) Sn, where Sn represents the partial sum of the series up to the nth term. This limit will give you the value of K, which is the fixed sum that the series approaches.

3. Can a series have multiple values for K?

No, a series can only have one value for K. If a series has multiple values for K, it is not a convergent series. In a convergent series, the value of K is unique and represents the limit of the series as the number of terms approaches infinity.

4. How can you determine if a series is convergent?

There are several tests that can be used to determine if a series is convergent, such as the ratio test, the root test, and the integral test. These tests involve analyzing the behavior of the terms in the series and comparing them to known convergent or divergent series.

5. What is the significance of finding the value of K in a convergent series?

Finding the value of K in a convergent series is important because it allows us to determine the behavior of the series as the number of terms increases. It also helps us to understand the overall convergence or divergence of the series and can be used to solve various mathematical problems and equations.

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