Does the Lorentz equation preserve causality?

In summary, the conversation discusses the effects of observer S' moving at a speed u compared to observer S in the x-direction. It considers two events happening at different times and locations in S, and how this translates to S'. It also discusses the relationship between L (the distance between the events) and T (the time difference between the events) for the order of the events to appear switched. Finally, it explores the concept of causality and how it is preserved in the Lorentz transformation.
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Homework Statement



Observer S' moves at a speed u compared to observer S in x-direction. Two events happen on the x-axis of S, with the coordinates x1 and x2 at times t1 and t2 measured in S. Let L = x2-x1 and T = t2-t1.

a) If the events happen at the same time in S, does the same apply to S'? b) What relationship must there be between L and T for the order of the events become switched? c) Let there be a causal relationship between the events. Can the order seem different in S'?

Homework Equations



The Lorentz equation t = (gamma) * ( t' + x' * u / c^2 )

The Attempt at a Solution



a) The answer to this is no, because they happen at varying units of x. If they had happened at the same location, the answer would be yes.

b) Not really sure, other than to have the product on the right in the parentheses be larger than t', resulting in a negative time for t. Only thing is, I don't know what that means in terms of the Lorentz equation...

c) Obviously no.
 
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Let's assume that T > 0. Then, in (b), T' < 0. Find what T' is, and see what it takes for it to be negative, assuming T is positive.
 
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You need to use both Lorentz equations, not just one of them. And you need to use the version where x' and t' are expressed in terms of x and t (rather than the other way around).

Chet
 
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silenzer said:
c) Obviously no.
I think you're meant to show that the Lorentz transformation preserves causality.
 
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I would like to clarify that the Lorentz equation does indeed preserve causality. Causality refers to the principle that an effect cannot occur before its cause. In the context of the Lorentz equation, this means that the order of events cannot be reversed in different reference frames.

a) In the Lorentz equation, t and t' represent the times measured in the two different reference frames. If the events happen at the same time in S, then t1 = t2 and the same applies to S'. This is because the Lorentz transformation only affects the spatial coordinates, not the time coordinate.

b) The relationship between L and T for the order of events to be switched is that L must be greater than T. This means that the events are happening at different locations in S, but at the same time in S'. In this case, the Lorentz transformation will result in a negative time for t, indicating that the event at x2 happened before the event at x1 in the frame S.

c) If there is a causal relationship between the events in S, the same order of events will be observed in S'. This is because the Lorentz transformation preserves the temporal ordering of events. If event A causes event B in S, then event A will also cause event B in S'. The Lorentz equation does not change the causal relationship between events, it only changes the way they are measured in different reference frames.

Overall, the Lorentz equation is a fundamental equation in special relativity that preserves causality and allows us to understand the effects of time dilation and length contraction in different reference frames. It is an important tool for understanding the behavior of objects moving at high speeds and has been confirmed by numerous experiments and observations.
 

Related to Does the Lorentz equation preserve causality?

1. What is the Lorentz equation problem?

The Lorentz equation problem refers to a mathematical model that describes the motion of charged particles in an electromagnetic field. It was developed by Dutch physicist Hendrik Lorentz in the late 19th century and is a fundamental equation in the field of classical electromagnetism.

2. What is the significance of the Lorentz equation problem?

The Lorentz equation problem is significant because it helps us understand and predict the behavior of charged particles in electric and magnetic fields. This has important applications in various fields such as electronics, plasma physics, and astrophysics.

3. What are the main components of the Lorentz equation problem?

The Lorentz equation problem is composed of three main components: the electric field, the magnetic field, and the Lorentz force. The electric and magnetic fields are described by their respective equations, while the Lorentz force is the product of the charge of the particle, its velocity, and the magnetic field.

4. How is the Lorentz equation problem derived?

The Lorentz equation problem is derived from Maxwell's equations, which describe the behavior of electric and magnetic fields. By combining these equations with the principle of relativity, Lorentz was able to derive the equation that bears his name.

5. What are some real-world applications of the Lorentz equation problem?

The Lorentz equation problem has many practical applications, such as in particle accelerators, where it is used to guide and control the motion of charged particles. It is also used in the design of electric motors and generators, as well as in the study of cosmic rays and their effects on Earth's atmosphere.

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