Does a Pendulum Stop Swinging in a Falling Lift?

In summary, if a pendulum is swinging in a lift and the cable breaks, causing the lift to accelerate downward at g, the pendulum will stop swinging and stay still as long as its surroundings are also accelerating downward. The only situation in which the pendulum would continue to move is if the cable breaks when the pendulum is at the extremity of its swing, with zero kinetic energy.
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Assume a pendulum was swinging in a lift. If the cable breaks and the lift starts to accelerate down at g would the pendulum stop swinging and freeze in its current position?
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Yes it would, assuming the lift is accelerating exactly at g. The only thing keeping the pendulum moving was the acceleration downward relative to its surroundings. If its surroundings are accelerating downwards, then the pendulum should stay still.
 
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Glenn G said:
Assume a pendulum was swinging in a lift. If the cable breaks and the lift starts to accelerate down at g would the pendulum stop swinging and freeze in its current position?
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G.

Clever question. I like it. I think @lekh2003 gave the right answer.

One of those schoolchildrern should ask the ISS astronauts if a pendulum clock would work in orbit.
 
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lekh2003 said:
Yes it would, assuming the lift is accelerating exactly at g. The only thing keeping the pendulum moving was the acceleration downward relative to its surroundings. If its surroundings are accelerating downwards, then the pendulum should stay still.
The bob was originally following a circular path. It would (in general) have a vertical and horizontal component to its velocity. and tension in the string So it would continue to move sideways and vertically relative to the lift cage if the pivot point started to accelerate downwards at g. There would / could still be some tension in the string (details depending on the part of the cycle of the pendulum. The only situation in which the bob would carry on down in the same position relative to the lift cage would be if the cable broke when the pendulum was horizontal, at which point there would be no tension and the acceleration of the bob would just be g. Only then it would appear "frozen".
 
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sophiecentaur said:
So it would continue to move sideways and vertically relative to the lift cage if the pivot point started to accelerate downwards at g.
Ahh, thanks for the correction.
sophiecentaur said:
The only situation in which the bob would carry on down in the same position relative to the lift cage would be if the cable broke when the pendulum was horizontal, at which point there would be no tension and the acceleration of the bob would just be g.
That isn't correct though. The pendulum could have zero kinetic energy when it is at any angle. It doesn't have to be completely horizontal. It will not move when it has zero kinetic energy.
 
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lekh2003 said:
That isn't correct though. The pendulum could have zero kinetic energy when it is at any angle. It doesn't have to be completely horizontal.
Oh yes, I think you're right there. Any situation where the bob is stationary wrt the lift frame (extremity of its swing), the tension would disappear etc. etc.
 
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Related to Does a Pendulum Stop Swinging in a Falling Lift?

1. What is a pendulum and how does it work?

A pendulum is a weight suspended from a fixed point that swings back and forth due to the force of gravity. The swinging motion is caused by the pendulum's potential energy being converted into kinetic energy as it moves.

2. Will a pendulum continue to swing in a falling lift?

No, a pendulum will not continue to swing in a falling lift. This is because the lift and everything inside it, including the pendulum, are in a state of free fall. This means that there is no external force acting on the pendulum to keep it swinging.

3. Why does a pendulum stop swinging in a falling lift?

A pendulum stops swinging in a falling lift because it is in a state of free fall. Gravity is the only force acting on the pendulum, and as the lift falls, the pendulum and the lift are falling at the same rate. This means that there is no relative motion between the pendulum and the lift, causing the pendulum to appear as if it is at rest.

4. Can a pendulum continue to swing in a falling lift if it is attached to the lift?

No, even if the pendulum is attached to the lift, it will not continue to swing in a falling lift. This is because both the lift and the pendulum are in a state of free fall and there is no relative motion between them. The attachment will not change this fact.

5. Is the pendulum affected by the acceleration of the lift in free fall?

Yes, the pendulum is affected by the acceleration of the lift in free fall. However, since both the lift and the pendulum are in a state of free fall, the acceleration does not cause any relative motion between them. Therefore, the pendulum appears to be at rest as the lift falls.

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