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The formula is$$

\frac{d}{dt}[\mathbf{a}\cdot (\mathbf{v}\times\mathbf{r})] = \dot{\mathbf{a}}\cdot (\mathbf{v}\times\mathbf{r}).

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How is this true? Shouldn't the derivative affect the cross product as well?

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\dfrac{d}{dt}[\mathbf{a}\cdot (\mathbf{v}\times\mathbf{r})] = \dot{\mathbf{a}}\cdot (\mathbf{v}\times\mathbf{r})+{\mathbf{a}}\cdot (\dot{\mathbf{v}}\times\mathbf{r})+\mathbf{a}\cdot (\mathbf{v}\times\dot{\mathbf{r}})

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But since $\dot{\mathbf{v}}=\mathbf{a}$ and $\dot{\mathbf{r}}=\mathbf{v}$, you get...The formula is

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\dfrac{d}{dt}[\mathbf{a}\cdot (\mathbf{v}\times\mathbf{r})] = \dot{\mathbf{a}}\cdot (\mathbf{v}\times\mathbf{r})+{\mathbf{a}}\cdot (\dot{\mathbf{v}}\times\mathbf{r})+\mathbf{a}\cdot (\mathbf{v}\times\dot{\mathbf{r}})

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Well, I don't suppose $\mathbf{a}$ means acceleration, etc in the same way that I don't suppose that a matrix $U\in\mathbb{C}^{n\times n}$ is a unitary matrix.But since $\dot{\mathbf{v}}=\mathbf{a}$ and $\dot{\mathbf{r}}=\mathbf{v}$, you get...

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Well, certainly notWell, I don't suppose $\mathbf{a}$ means acceleration, etc in the same way that I don't suppose that a matrix $U\in\mathbb{C}^{n\times n}$ is a unitary matrix.

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It isn't. But the result is perpendicular to $\mathbf{a}$, so when you do the outer dot product...v cross v is zero but why is a cross r zero?