Cyclic Normal Groups: Proving Normality of Subgroups in Cyclic Groups"

In summary, the conversation discusses using the fact that subgroups of cyclic groups are cyclic and characteristic to prove that any subgroup of a normal cyclic subgroup H is also normal in the group G. The proof involves showing that a subgroup of a given order in Z_n is unique, and since cyclic groups of a certain order are unique up to isomorphism, this proves that the subgroup is characteristic in G.
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Let H be normal in G, H cyclic. Show any subgroup K of H is normal in G.

I was thinking about using the fact that subgroups of cyclic groups are cyclic, and that subgroups of cyclic groups are (fully)Characteristic (is that true?). Then we would have
K char in H and H normal in G.
Hence K normal in G.

I am not sure about the part where subgroups of cyclic groups are characteristic. If yes, How would you prove this?
 
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Think concretely. A cyclic group is isomorphic to either the integers Z, or the integers mod n, Z_n. Can you prove any subgroup of those is characteristic?
 
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I am thinking maybe that since cyclic groups of a certain order are unique up to isomorphism and that if a subgroup K of a certain order is unique in a group H, then K char in G.

Now since K is cyclic in H, then K char in H.
 
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math8 said:
I am thinking maybe that since cyclic groups of a certain order are unique up to isomorphism and that if a subgroup K of a certain order is unique in a group H, then K char in G.

Now since K is cyclic in H, then K char in H.

Something like that. If you can prove there is exactly one subgroup of a given order in Z_n then you've got it. In the infinite case of Z, it's not going to be useful to consider order though.
 

Related to Cyclic Normal Groups: Proving Normality of Subgroups in Cyclic Groups"

1. What is a cyclic normal group?

A cyclic normal group is a subgroup of a cyclic group that is invariant under conjugation by any element of the larger cyclic group. In other words, if the subgroup is "rotated" by any element of the larger group, it remains unchanged. This is a key concept in understanding the structure of cyclic groups.

2. How can you prove the normality of a subgroup in a cyclic group?

To prove the normality of a subgroup in a cyclic group, you must show that the subgroup is invariant under conjugation by any element of the larger cyclic group. This can be done by showing that the subgroup is closed under the group operation and that for any element in the subgroup, its conjugates by elements of the larger group are also in the subgroup.

3. What is the significance of normal subgroups in cyclic groups?

Normal subgroups play a crucial role in understanding the structure of cyclic groups. They are important because they allow us to factor out the group into smaller, simpler subgroups, making it easier to analyze and understand. Additionally, normal subgroups have many useful properties such as being closed under the group operation and being the kernel of a homomorphism.

4. Can a cyclic group have non-normal subgroups?

Yes, a cyclic group can have non-normal subgroups. In fact, not all subgroups of a cyclic group are normal. For example, in a cyclic group of order 6, the subgroups of order 2 are not normal. It is important to carefully consider the properties of a subgroup before determining if it is normal or not.

5. Are there any shortcuts or tricks to proving normality of subgroups in cyclic groups?

There are some general approaches and techniques that can make proving the normality of subgroups in cyclic groups easier. For example, using properties of cyclic groups such as the fact that all subgroups of a cyclic group are themselves cyclic can be helpful. Additionally, looking for elements that generate the subgroup and examining their conjugates can also provide insights into the normality of the subgroup.

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