Continuity of (x^2 + y^2)sin(1/(x^2+y^2)) Derivative at 0

In summary, the derivative of x^2sin(1/x) isn't continuous at zero, but the derivative of (x^2+y^2) sin(1/(x^2+y^2))) is continuous at zero.
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brydustin
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obviously x^2sin(1/x) isn't continuous in its derivative at zero. But it seems if you take
(x^2 + y^2) sin(1/(x^2+y^2)) and switch to polar coordinates then the derivative is continuous at zero... but that can't be right... can it?
 
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The second function doesn't restrict to the first function on the x-axis, so I'm not sure why you would be surprised their differentiability properties would be different. On the other hand the function

[tex] (x^2+y^2) \sin( \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}} ) [/tex]
is the radial extension of your original function to the x-y plane, and when you switch to polar coordinates you get that it is not differentiable at zero (since it's the exact same function once you do that)
 
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Please be more specific. What are your calculations, for instance?

Also, the derivative in polar coordinates aren't that simple. If we have r=f(θ), then f'(θ) isn't necessarily the slope of the line tangent to f at θ.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
The second function doesn't restrict to the first function on the x-axis, so I'm not sure why you would be surprised their differentiability properties would be different. On the other hand the function

[tex] (x^2+y^2) \sin( \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}} ) [/tex]
is the radial extension of your original function to the x-y plane, and when you switch to polar coordinates you get that it is not differentiable at zero (since it's the exact same function once you do that)

g'(r,alpha) = (for all alpha) = z2r*sin(1/r*sqrt(z)) - r^2/sqrt(r*z) cos(1/r*sqrt(z)) is what I get. where z = cos^2(alpha) + sin^2(alpha). And the limit should exist as r goes to zero by the squeeze theorem., ... right?
 
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Whovian said:
Please be more specific. What are your calculations, for instance?

Also, the derivative in polar coordinates aren't that simple. If we have r=f(θ), then f'(θ) isn't necessarily the slope of the line tangent to f at θ.

OH, no... I made a mistake. I made a bad substitution as I forgot that r = sqrt(x^2+y^2) and then its really trivial. Funny, that I had this idea but did the transformation wrong, still.
 
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Related to Continuity of (x^2 + y^2)sin(1/(x^2+y^2)) Derivative at 0

What is the definition of the derivative at a point?

The derivative at a point is defined as the slope of the tangent line to a function at that specific point. It represents the instantaneous rate of change of the function at that point.

What is the limit definition of the derivative at a point?

The limit definition of the derivative at a point is defined as the limit of the change in the function divided by the change in the independent variable, as the change in the independent variable approaches zero. This can be represented mathematically as f'(a) = lim (x->a) (f(x) - f(a)) / (x-a).

What is the continuity of a function at a point?

A function is continuous at a point if the limit of the function at that point is equal to the value of the function at that point. In other words, the function has no abrupt changes or holes at that specific point.

What is the continuity of (x^2 + y^2)sin(1/(x^2+y^2)) at 0?

The function (x^2 + y^2)sin(1/(x^2+y^2)) is continuous at 0 because the limit as (x,y) approaches (0,0) exists and is equal to 0. This means that the function has no abrupt changes or holes at (0,0).

What is the derivative of (x^2 + y^2)sin(1/(x^2+y^2)) at 0?

The derivative of (x^2 + y^2)sin(1/(x^2+y^2)) at 0 is equal to 0. This can be found using the limit definition of the derivative, as the limit as (x,y) approaches (0,0) of the function is equal to 0.

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