Conceptual question on greens theorem/line integrals

In summary, the discussion focused on the relationship between Green's theorem and line integrals. It was noted that while the formula for a line integral is similar to the left side of Green's theorem, the theorem only holds true for simple closed contours. Factors such as discontinuous functions and complicated contours can cause the theorem to fail.
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Hey guys,

I just wanted to know, if it would be an incorrect assumption to say that greens theorem is directly correlated to a line integral.

The reason I am assuming that is because the formula for a line integral in my calc text is

∫f(x,y)dx+g(x,y)=∫f(x,y)dx+∫g(x,y)dy
c c c

Which is simply the left side of greens theorem.

I also am having a hard time putting the similarities between all three theorems. Greens, divergence, and stokes together in terms of what they all have in common.

Thanks

Higgenz


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Greens theorem is strict, the relation is true with a simple CLOSED contour but not in general. Take the line integral of a contour that isn't closed or simple and greens theorem will fail.
 
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How would we know if it fails?
 
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Mdhiggenz said:
How would we know if it fails?

Small things like discontinuous functions would cause it to fail, if the contour isn't closed then it will most likely fail, if the contour is too complicated (it overlaps) then it will probably fail.
 

Related to Conceptual question on greens theorem/line integrals

1. What is Greens theorem?

Greens theorem is a fundamental theorem in vector calculus that relates the line integral of a vector field over a closed curve to the double integral of its curl over the region enclosed by the curve. It is named after mathematician George Green.

2. How is Greens theorem used in real-life applications?

Greens theorem has numerous applications in physics and engineering, such as in fluid mechanics, electromagnetism, and heat transfer. It is used to calculate work done by a force, determine electric and magnetic fields, and solve boundary value problems.

3. What is the relationship between Greens theorem and line integrals?

Greens theorem states that the line integral of a vector field around a closed curve is equal to the double integral of the curl of the vector field over the region enclosed by the curve. In other words, it relates a line integral to a double integral.

4. Can Greens theorem be applied to non-closed curves?

No, Greens theorem can only be applied to closed curves. This is because the theorem relies on the concept of a closed region enclosed by the curve, and a non-closed curve does not enclose a region.

5. How is Greens theorem related to Stokes theorem?

Stokes theorem is a generalization of Greens theorem, as it applies to not just closed curves but also closed surfaces. Greens theorem can be seen as a special case of Stokes theorem when applied to a two-dimensional surface. Both theorems relate line integrals to double integrals of a vector field's curl.

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