Composition of 2 simple harmonic motions with different angular veloci

In summary, the conversation discusses combining two simple harmonic motions with different angular frequencies. The goal is to find the resultant motion in the form of a single sinusoid, but this is not possible if the two motions are added together. It is suggested to use trigonometric formulas for the addition of two sines, or to consider using a Fourier transform if the motions are directed along different axes. It is also mentioned that the amplitude of the combined motion may need to be a function of time.
  • #1
TheDoctor46
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Homework Statement



I have 2 simple harmonic motions and I want to compose them on the same axis. So:

x1 = A1*sin(ω1*t+θ1)
x2 = A2*sin(ω2*t+θ2)

The goal is to find the resultant motion of these 2 in the form:
X = A*sin(ω*t+Θ), so to find A,ω and Θ as functions of A1,A2,ω1,ω2,θ1 and θ2.

Homework Equations



I believe there is an analytical way and a graphical way(Fresnel graph) to solve this .



Thanks,
Radu
 
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  • #2
Use the trigonometric formulas for the addition and/or subtraction of two sines.
 
  • #5
The idea is to find the resultant motion of these two harmonic motions.
 
  • #6
Have you tried my suggestion on post #2?
 
  • #7
The thing is that x1+x2 is not a solution for the differential equation, because the two motions do not have the same pulsation(angular velocity).
 
  • #8
TheDoctor46 said:
The idea is to find the resultant motion of these two harmonic motions.
There are many ways that two harmonic motions can be combined.
You used the work "composition" to describe how they are combined.

How are they to be combined?

TheDoctor46 said:
The thing is that x1+x2 is not a solution for the differential equation, because the two motions do not have the same pulsation(angular velocity).
In English ##\omega## is "angular velocity" or "angular frequency".
This is the first time you have mentioned a differential equation.
Please provide all information that is important to the problem.

Note: if x1 and x2 are solutions to the same linear DE, then x1+x2 is also a solution.

Please understand:
(1) If you leave out important information, we cannot help you.
There is no way to tell of a suggestion is any good if we don't know what conditions the solutions have to satisfy.

(2) If you do not answer questions, we cannot help you.
The questions we ask you are not arbitrary or rhetorical - the answers to the questions help us to know how best to help you.
 
  • #9
If the two harmonic motions are to be combined additively and they do not have the same angular frequency then the resultant cannot be represented by a single sinusoid. Consider the Fourier transform of the combined (added) functions; both frequencies will be represented in the power spectrum as separate components. As a consequence the inverse transform must contain terms for each, too.

Things might be more interesting if the motions were directed along different axes. Then the combined motion might be represented by a 2D Lissajous figure.
 
  • #10
TheDoctor46 said:
The thing is that x1+x2 is not a solution for the differential equation, because the two motions do not have the same pulsation(angular velocity).

You will have to allow the amplitude of the combined motion to be a function of time. Have you tried my suggestion from post #2?
 

Related to Composition of 2 simple harmonic motions with different angular veloci

1. What is a simple harmonic motion?

A simple harmonic motion is a type of periodic motion where the displacement of an object follows a sinusoidal pattern, meaning it moves back and forth at a constant rate. This type of motion is commonly seen in springs, pendulums, and vibrating systems.

2. What is angular velocity?

Angular velocity is the rate at which an object rotates or moves around a fixed point. It is measured in radians per second and is calculated by dividing the angle traveled by the time it takes to travel that angle.

3. How do you calculate the composition of two simple harmonic motions with different angular velocities?

The composition of two simple harmonic motions with different angular velocities can be calculated by adding the displacements of the two motions at any given time. This means that the resulting motion will be a combination of the two individual motions.

4. Can the composition of two simple harmonic motions with different angular velocities produce a non-periodic motion?

No, the composition of two simple harmonic motions with different angular velocities will always result in a periodic motion. This is because both motions are periodic and their combined displacements will repeat in a predictable pattern.

5. How does the amplitude of the resulting motion change when two simple harmonic motions with different angular velocities are composed?

The amplitude of the resulting motion will depend on the amplitudes of the individual motions and their phase difference. In some cases, the amplitude may increase, while in others it may decrease or remain the same. The exact change in amplitude can be calculated using trigonometric functions.

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