Classical Limit of a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator

In summary: This is what method 1 suggests, by expressing the general time evolving state as a superposition of stationary states. This allows for a classical-like behavior of the particle, with <x>=Acos(wt+b). On the other hand, method 2 looks at the probability distribution of a single stationary state and compares it to a classical harmonic oscillator. This method gives a probability distribution that matches the classical result, but it also means that <x>=0, which is not in agreement with method 1. So, while each method individually makes sense, they seem to disagree when trying to reconcile them, causing confusion about the behavior of the particle.
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I seem to have two approaches that I've seen and understand, but I can't quite see how they relate.

1. Write a general time evolving state as a superposition of stationary states multiplied by their exp(-iEt/h) factors, and calculate <x>. We find that <x>=Acos(wt+b) as in classical physics (in the limit of large energies, the time evolving probability distribution spikes around this time evolving expectation value, so this works).

2. Look at the probability distribution of a stationary state for large n, and compare it to the probability distribution for a classical harmonic oscillator, and note that they are similar (if you just consider the envelope of the quantum mechanical prediction). However in this method, <x>=0.

So method 1 says that a classical oscillator has to be in a superposition of stationary states, method 2 says it is in a single stationary state. Method 1 is good on the grounds that we retrieve our usual oscillatory result, method 2 is good in that we see the probability distributions match. If you try to cross the methods over and prove the opposite things for each, then method 2 says <x>=0 (not good!), method 1 gives a time evolving probability distribution (hence <x>=f(t)), and so they disagree.

Each approach alone seems to make sense to me, but then they seem to be disagreeing when I compare them which is confusing me. Can anyone help, thanks :)
 
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What do they disagree about? It looks like you are working out different classical behaviors.
Generally, when you want to recover the classical dynamics of a particle, you want to take a superpositon to represent the particle.
 

Related to Classical Limit of a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator

What is the Classical Limit of a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator?

The Classical Limit of a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator is the point where the behavior of the oscillator can be described using classical mechanics rather than quantum mechanics. This usually occurs when the energy of the oscillator is much larger than the energy of the quantum ground state.

How is the Classical Limit related to the Uncertainty Principle?

The Uncertainty Principle states that there is a fundamental limit to the precision with which certain pairs of physical properties can be measured simultaneously. In the case of a quantum harmonic oscillator, the Uncertainty Principle becomes more apparent as the energy approaches the Classical Limit, as the position and momentum of the oscillator become more predictable and less uncertain.

What factors affect the Classical Limit of a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator?

The Classical Limit of a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator is influenced by the energy of the oscillator, the mass of the particle, and the frequency of the oscillator. As the energy of the oscillator increases, the Classical Limit is approached, while a lower mass and higher frequency can also contribute to a smaller Classical Limit.

Why is the Classical Limit important in quantum mechanics?

The Classical Limit is important because it helps us understand the transition between the quantum world and the classical world. As the energy of a quantum system increases, its behavior becomes more and more similar to that of a classical system. This helps us bridge the gap between the two theories and make connections between them.

Are there any real-world examples of the Classical Limit of a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator?

Yes, there are many real-world examples of the Classical Limit of a Quantum Harmonic Oscillator. One example is the motion of electrons in a metal, where the energy of the electrons is high enough to approach the Classical Limit. Another example is the behavior of atoms in a Bose-Einstein condensate, where the energy is low enough to remain in the quantum regime.

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