Can F be expressed as the gradient of a scalar?

In summary, the conversation discusses verifying Stoke's Theorem for a given vector field in cylindrical coordinates. The line and surface integrals are evaluated and it is determined that there was a mistake in the integration for the CD segment. After correcting this, Stoke's Theorem is successfully verified.
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Homework Statement


Assume a vector field:[tex]\textbf{F} = \widehat{r} 2r sin\phi + \widehat{\phi} r^2 cos\phi[/tex]

a) Verify the Stokes's theorem over the ABCD contour shown in Fig. 1 .
b) Can F be expressed as the gradient of a scalar? Explain

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My problems results in not being able to verify Stoke's Theorem

Homework Equations


Stoke's Theorem
[tex]\oint_{C} \textbf{F}\cdot \overrightarrow{dl} = \int \int_{S} (\nabla\times\textbf{F})\cdot \overrightarrow{dS}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


We can see that the line integral and surface integrals can be dealt with in cylindrical coordinates.
for line integrals:
[tex]\int _{DA}+\int _{AB}+\int _{BC}+\int _{CD} =-\int_{r=2}^{1}2rsin(0)dr + \int_{\phi=0}^{\pi/3}cos(\phi)d\phi + \int_{r=1}^{2}2rsin(\pi/3)dr + \int_{\phi=\pi/3}^{0}4cos(\phi)d\phi[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{\sqrt3}{2} +\frac{\sqrt3}{2}(4-1) -4\frac{\sqrt3}{2}=0 [/tex]

I also obtain that [tex]\nabla\cdot \textbf{F}=\widehat{z}cos\phi(3r-2)[/tex]
And surface integral is evaluated as [tex]-\int_{r=1}^{2}\int _{\phi=0}^{\phi/3}cos\phi(3r-2)rdrd\phi=-(8-4)\frac{\sqrt3}{2}=-4\frac{\sqrt3}{2}[/tex]
The negative is due to the fact that ds is in the -z direction.
Am I doing something wrong while integrating?

Thanks in advance!
 
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In your line integrals for segments AB and CD, d[itex]\phi[/itex] represents a change in angle, which s not the same as a change in arc length, dl.
 
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True, but isn't [tex]\overrightarrow{dl} = \widehat{\phi}r d\phi [/tex] for path AB and [tex]\overrightarrow{dl} = -\widehat{\phi} r d\phi[/tex] for path CD? The after dot product, I obtain the integrals previously?
 
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SteamKings point is that, in the integral from C to D, [itex]ds= 2d\phi[/itex]. You need another factor of 2.
 
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Ahh I see now I was missing r = 2 in the the CD line integral, now Stoke's theorem can be verified. Thank you very much guys!
 

Related to Can F be expressed as the gradient of a scalar?

1. What is Stoke's Theorem and how is it related to vector fields?

Stoke's Theorem is a fundamental theorem in vector calculus that relates the surface integral of a vector field to the line integral of its curl along the boundary of the surface. In other words, it allows us to calculate the circulation of a vector field around a closed curve on a surface by only considering the vector field on the surface itself.

2. What is the significance of Stoke's Theorem in physics?

Stoke's Theorem has important applications in physics, particularly in the study of fluid flow and electromagnetism. It is used to calculate the circulation of a fluid or electric field around a closed path, which is essential in understanding phenomena such as air and water currents, and the behavior of electric currents and magnetic fields.

3. How is Stoke's Theorem different from Green's Theorem?

Stoke's Theorem is a higher-dimensional generalization of Green's Theorem. While Green's Theorem is limited to the two-dimensional plane, Stoke's Theorem applies to vector fields in three-dimensional space. Additionally, Green's Theorem only applies to closed curves on a surface, while Stoke's Theorem can be applied to any surface with a closed boundary.

4. What are the conditions for Stoke's Theorem to be applicable?

Stoke's Theorem is applicable when the vector field is continuous and has continuous first-order partial derivatives in the region enclosed by the surface, and the surface itself is smooth and oriented in a consistent direction. It is also necessary for the surface to be closed and have a finite area.

5. Can Stoke's Theorem be generalized to higher dimensions?

Yes, Stoke's Theorem can be generalized to any number of dimensions. In three dimensions, it is known as the classic form of Stoke's Theorem, but it can be extended to higher dimensions by using differential forms. This allows us to apply Stoke's Theorem to more complex vector fields and surfaces in higher-dimensional spaces.

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