Can Degenerate States be Expressed as a Linear Combination of Orthogonal States?

In summary, the conversation discusses the orthonormality of degenerate electron states, specifically the <n',l',m'|n,l,m> notation. It is stated that you cannot write |2,0,0> as a superposition of the three l=1 states, and the proof is requested. The response suggests using bra-ket notation to show that degenerate states are orthonormal due to being eigenstates of hermitian operators with different eigenvalues.
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Homework Statement



Are all electronis states orthonormal?
I mean the degenerate states ie [n,l,m>states corresponding to same energy
for example can one write
[2,0,0>=a[2,1,-1>+b[2,1,0>+c[2,1,+1>

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The Attempt at a Solution



for example can one write
[2,0,0>=a[2,1,-1>+b[2,1,0>+c[2,1,+1>?
 
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[tex]<n',l',m'|n,l,m>=\delta_{n'n}\delta_{l'l}\delta_{m'm}[/tex]

So you cannot write |2,0,0> as a superposition of the three l=1 states.
 
  • #3
borgwal said:
[tex]<n',l',m'|n,l,m>=\delta_{n'n}\delta_{l'l}\delta_{m'm}[/tex]

So you cannot write |2,0,0> as a superposition of the three l=1 states.

Fine but how do you go about the proof?

forget about in the wavemechanics
just a general proof in bra-ket notation,showing that degenerate states are orthonormal.
 
  • #4
They are eigenstates of hermitian operators (namely, angular momentum) with different eigenvalues.
 

Related to Can Degenerate States be Expressed as a Linear Combination of Orthogonal States?

1. What is degeneracy in science?

Degeneracy in science refers to the phenomenon where multiple distinct states or configurations of a system can have the same energy. This can occur in various systems, such as atoms, molecules, and quantum mechanical systems.

2. How does degeneracy relate to orthogonality?

Orthogonality is a mathematical concept that refers to the perpendicularity of two vectors or functions. In the context of degeneracy, orthogonality is used to describe the relationship between different degenerate states. Orthogonal states have no overlap in terms of their quantum numbers or characteristics, and therefore are distinct despite having the same energy.

3. What are the consequences of degeneracy in quantum mechanics?

Degeneracy in quantum mechanics can lead to various consequences, such as the existence of multiple possible states for a given energy level, and the need for a larger number of quantum numbers to describe a system accurately. It can also affect the accuracy of certain measurements and calculations, as well as the stability of a system.

4. How is degeneracy measured and quantified?

Degeneracy can be quantified by calculating the degeneracy index, which is the number of different states that have the same energy. In quantum mechanics, degeneracy can also be described using the concept of degenerate orbitals, which are orbitals with the same energy level but different spatial orientations.

5. Can degeneracy be broken or lifted?

Yes, degeneracy can be broken or lifted through various methods, such as applying an external magnetic or electric field, or through interactions with other particles. This can result in the splitting of degenerate states and the creation of new energy levels.

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