Calculating frequencies with the Doppler Effect

In summary, this conversation discusses a problem involving the Doppler effect in physics. The problem involves a train moving at a constant speed towards an intersection, while a car is stopped near the crossing. The train's horn emits a frequency of 500 Hz when it is 40.0 m from the intersection. The conversation also mentions the general Doppler equation and the concept of the Doppler effect being complicated. The main twist in this problem is that both the train and car are moving, which may require a different approach in solving it.
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Luke Frederiks
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Homework Statement


A train moves at a constant speed of v = 25.0 m/s toward the intersection shown in Figure P13.71b. A car is stopped near the crossing, 30.0 m from the tracks. The train’s horn emits a frequency of 500 Hz when the train is 40.0 m from the intersection. (a) What is the frequency heard by the passengers in the car? (b) If the train emits this sound continuously and the car is stationary at this position long before the train arrives until long after it leaves, what range of frequencies do passengers in the car hear? (c) Suppose the car is foolishly trying to beat the train to the intersection and is traveling at 40.0 m/s toward the tracks. When the car is 30.0 m from the tracks and the train is 40.0 m from the intersection, what is the frequency heard by the passengers in the car now?

Figure 13.71b: http://i.imgur.com/b08nVys.jpg

Homework Equations


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The Doppler equation presented in the text is valid when the motion between the observer and the source occurs on a straight line so that the source and observer are moving either directly toward or directly away from each other. If this restriction is relaxed, one must use the more general Doppler equation

f ' = ((v + vi cos θi) / (v − vs cos θs))*f


where θi and θs are defined in Figure P13.71a. Use the preceding equation to solve the following problem.

I find the whole concept of Doppler effect in physics to be rather complicated. I would not only love to understand this problem but the concept in general. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Luke Frederiks said:

Homework Statement


A train moves at a constant speed of v = 25.0 m/s toward the intersection shown in Figure P13.71b. A car is stopped near the crossing, 30.0 m from the tracks. The train’s horn emits a frequency of 500 Hz when the train is 40.0 m from the intersection. (a) What is the frequency heard by the passengers in the car? (b) If the train emits this sound continuously and the car is stationary at this position long before the train arrives until long after it leaves, what range of frequencies do passengers in the car hear? (c) Suppose the car is foolishly trying to beat the train to the intersection and is traveling at 40.0 m/s toward the tracks. When the car is 30.0 m from the tracks and the train is 40.0 m from the intersection, what is the frequency heard by the passengers in the car now?

Figure 13.71b: http://i.imgur.com/b08nVys.jpg

Homework Equations


[/B]
The Doppler equation presented in the text is valid when the motion between the observer and the source occurs on a straight line so that the source and observer are moving either directly toward or directly away from each other. If this restriction is relaxed, one must use the more general Doppler equation

f ' = ((v + vi cos θi) / (v − vs cos θs))*f


where θi and θs are defined in Figure P13.71a. Use the preceding equation to solve the following problem.

I find the whole concept of Doppler effect in physics to be rather complicated. I would not only love to understand this problem but the concept in general. Any help would be appreciated.
Welcome to the PF.

The Doppler effect is pretty straightforward and intuitive, IMO. Can you post links to some of the reading you have been doing about it, and ask specific questions about anything that is confusing you?

It looks like the main twist in this problem is the fact that both the train and car are moving -- how do you think you should handle that part?
 

What is the Doppler Effect?

The Doppler Effect is a phenomenon in physics that describes the change in frequency of a wave when the source of the wave is in motion relative to the observer.

How is the Doppler Effect used to calculate frequencies?

The Doppler Effect is used to calculate frequencies by measuring the change in wavelength of a wave as the source moves. The formula for calculating frequencies with the Doppler Effect is f' = f(v ± vr)/v, where f' is the observed frequency, f is the emitted frequency, v is the speed of the wave, and vr is the relative velocity between the source and observer.

What factors affect the accuracy of calculating frequencies with the Doppler Effect?

The accuracy of calculating frequencies with the Doppler Effect can be affected by several factors, such as the speed and direction of the source and observer, the speed of the wave, and any obstructions or interferences in the medium through which the wave is traveling.

In what fields is the Doppler Effect used for frequency calculations?

The Doppler Effect is used in various fields, including astronomy, meteorology, seismology, and medical imaging. It is particularly useful for calculating the frequency of sound and light waves in these applications.

How is the Doppler Effect related to the concept of redshift and blueshift?

The Doppler Effect is directly related to the concept of redshift and blueshift. Redshift occurs when the source and observer are moving away from each other, causing the observed frequency to decrease and the wavelength to lengthen. Blueshift occurs when the source and observer are moving towards each other, causing the observed frequency to increase and the wavelength to shorten.

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