Calculate the volume with a rational funtion

In summary, the conversation is about finding the volume generated by a given function rotated around a specific line. The method discussed is using cylindrical shells and the initial integral is simplified by using a substitution, but the person is still struggling to find a suitable simplification. They suggest trying a different substitution, but the other person recommends a specific substitution to try.
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yaakob7
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Homework Statement



Calculate the volume (V) generated by the given function:
[itex]y^{2}=\frac{x^3}{2a-x}[/itex] about the line [itex]x=2a[/itex]

I suppose you have to use cylindrical shells [because it's difficult to fin [itex]y[/itex]], so:

[itex]V=2\pi(2a-x)\sqrt{\frac{x^3}{2a-x}}Δx[/itex]

now:

[itex]V=\int^{2a}_{0}2\pi(2a-x)\sqrt{\frac{x^3}{2a-x}}dx[/itex]

but I tried a million things but nothing works:

First, simplifying the integrand to this:

[itex]V=2\pi\int^{2a}_{0}\sqrt{2a-x}\sqrt{x^3}dx[/itex]

Next, I've been searching for any substitution function, but nothing works. If you have some idea that could help me I'd be grateful.

Thanks
 
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yaakob7 said:

Homework Statement



Calculate the volume (V) generated by the given function:
[itex]\displaystyle y^{2}=\frac{x^3}{2a-x}[/itex] about the line [itex]x=2a[/itex]

I suppose you have to use cylindrical shells [because it's difficult to fin [itex]y[/itex]], so:

[itex]\displaystyle V=2\pi(2a-x)\sqrt{\frac{x^3}{2a-x}}Δx[/itex]

now:

[itex]\displaystyle V=\int^{2a}_{0}2\pi(2a-x)\sqrt{\frac{x^3}{2a-x}}dx[/itex]

but I tried a million things but nothing works:

First, simplifying the integrand to this:

[itex]\displaystyle V=2\pi\int^{2a}_{0}\sqrt{2a-x}\sqrt{x^3}dx[/itex]

Next, I've been searching for any substitution function, but nothing works. If you have some idea that could help me I'd be grateful.

Thanks
Hello yaakob7. Welcome to PF !

Mostly it's just a matter of rewriting the integrand.

The substitution, u = 2a/x will also help. Do that first.
 
  • #3
SammyS said:
Hello yaakob7. Welcome to PF !

Mostly it's just a matter of rewriting the integrand.

The substitution, u = 2a/x will also help. Do that first.

Did you mean u=2a-x??

I tried but the expression remains almost the same:

[itex]V=2\pi\int^{2a}_{0}\sqrt{u}\sqrt{(2a-u)^3}dx=2\pi\int^{2a}_{0}(2a-u)\sqrt{u}\sqrt{(2a-u)}dx[/itex]

Im stuck there. I can`t find a simplify function that really works...
 
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Good topic I read and i understanding
 
  • #5
nazfagge said:
Good topic I read and i understanding

Hello nazfagge. Welcome to PF !

I'm glad that you understand this.
 
  • #6
yaakob7 said:
Did you mean u=2a-x??

I tried but the expression remains almost the same:

[itex]V=2\pi\int^{2a}_{0}\sqrt{u}\sqrt{(2a-u)^3}dx=2\pi\int^{2a}_{0}(2a-u)\sqrt{u}\sqrt{(2a-u)}dx[/itex]

I'm stuck there. I can`t find a simplify function that really works...
Well, u = 2a/x was a typo.

I meant: Let u = x/(2a). Then x = (2a)u , and dx =(2a)du.

You can then factor 2a out of a whole lot of stuff.
 

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What is a rational function?

A rational function is a mathematical function that can be represented as a ratio of two polynomials.

How do you calculate the volume with a rational function?

To calculate the volume with a rational function, you first need to determine the equation for the volume based on the given parameters. Then, plug in the values for the variables and simplify the resulting rational function to find the volume.

What are the common variables in a rational function for volume?

The common variables in a rational function for volume are typically length, width, and height. These variables represent the dimensions of the object for which the volume is being calculated.

What is the importance of calculating volume with a rational function?

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What are some tips for solving volume problems with rational functions?

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