Basic Math Problem of the Week 10/28/2017

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In summary, the problem is to prove that for the quadratic equation ##x^2-kx+2n=0##, one of the roots is equal to ##\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}}##, where ##n## is a positive integer. The task is to prove that ##2\sqrt{2n} \le k \le 3\sqrt{n}##. A hint is given to use the distance between the minimum and zero of the parabola and a solution by @QuantumQuest is provided with a minor correction. The series ## S_n ## is discussed and
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One of the roots of the quadratic equation ##x^2-kx+2n=0## is equals to ##\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}}##, where ##n## is a positive integer.

Prove that ##2\sqrt{2n} \le k \le 3\sqrt{n}##

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One of the roots of the quadratic equation ##x^2-kx+2n=0## is equals to ##\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}}##, where ##n## is a positive integer.

Prove that ##2\sqrt{2n} \le k \le 3\sqrt{n}##

(PotW thanks to our friends at http://www.mathhelpboards.com/)
Hint for the difficult part: Try to use the distance between the minimum and the zero of the parabola, ##S_n := \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}}## for the estimation.
 
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Just an idea for the right part of the inequality to be proved
Let ##x_1## and ##x_2## be the roots of the given quadratic equation with ##x_1 =
\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}}##
Using Vieta's formulas for quadratics (##ax^2 + bx + c = 0##) and applying to the given quadratic equation we have that ##x_1 + x_2 = -\frac{b}{a} = k## and ##x_1\cdot x_2 = \frac{c}{a} = 2n##. So, ##x_2 = \frac{2n}{\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}}}##. Now, going to the inequality we're asked to prove we substitute ##k## for the sum of the two roots ##x_1 + x_2## and we have
##\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}} + \frac{2n}{\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}}} \leq 3\sqrt{n}##.
Now, to prove this right part of the asked inequality, we utilize that ##\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}} < 2\sqrt{n}##. This can be easily proved using induction, so I omit the proof here. Returning to the right part of the asked inequality and doing the math we have

##\frac{(\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}})^2 + 2n}{\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1}}+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}}+\cdots+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{n}}} \leq \frac{6n}{2\sqrt{n}} = 3\sqrt{n}## which is what is asked in the right part.
 
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An excellent solution by @QuantumQuest ! I would like to make one minor correction though. In proving that ## S_n+\frac{2n}{ S_n} \leq 3 \sqrt{n} ##, I think in writing it as a fraction, you would need to have a lower limit on the denominator (rather than an upper limit) to prove the last "less than or equal" inequality. ## \\ ## Instead, let ## S_n=2 \sqrt{n}-\delta_n ##. Also let ## A=\sqrt{n} ##. Then we need to find the conditions on ## \delta_n ## so that ## 2A-\delta_n+\frac{2A^2}{2A-\delta_n} \leq 3 A ##. Multiplying through on both sides by ## 2A-\delta_n ##, we get ## (2A-\delta_n)^2+2A^2 \leq (3A)(2A-\delta_n) ##. The result after a little algebra ( multiplying out, and subtracting, etc.) is ## \delta_n \leq A ##. Thereby ## \delta_n \leq \sqrt{n} ## is the requirement for the inequality to hold. For the series ## S_n ##, when ## n=1 ##, ## \delta_1=1 ## . For integers ## n>1 ##, it looks as if it will clearly be the case that ## \delta_n <\sqrt{n} ##, but on this part (for ## n>1 ##), I will forego a rigorous proof.
 
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