Attraction between two charges in QED

In summary, the attraction between nuclei and electrons in QED is described by Feynman's diagram and calculation, where the electron flows quickly near the nuclei. This can be seen in Feynman's "Feynman Lecture on Gravitation" where the instantaneous Coulomb potential is divided into two parts, with one being instantaneous and the other being retarded. This is in contrast to classical electrodynamics where the Coulomb potential is not instantaneous. However, the instantaneous part is only an approximation and can be modified by the photonic part to yield a retarded interaction. The theory can also be formulated in different gauges, such as the Coulomb gauge, where the electrostatic interaction is more apparent.
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Attraction between nuclei and electron in QED is the most simply described with Feynman's diagram and calculation, when an electron fastly flow close to a nuclei. (?? scattering)

1. But how, in QED, to describe attraction between almost standstill electron and nuclei.
In classical physics this gives F=e^2/r^2.
Is this constant flow of virtual photons, which gives this attraction?

2. What is difference between classical and QED scattering of an electron on the nuclei?

I read some Feynman books, so you can give me its references.


Thanks in advance.
 
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In feynman's "Feynman Lecture on Gravitation" eq. 3.2.8 is divided in two parts.

= (j4' j4)/k^2+1/(w^2-k^2)(j1' j1+j2' j2)
j4 part is instantaneous, other tho parts are retarded.

j4 part means instantaneously acting Couloumb's potential.

But, Couloumb's potential in classical electrodynamics is not instantaneous.
For instance if sun suddenly dissapears, its gravity on Earth will disapear only after 8 minuts. The same is at one charge (on smaller distance).
How to explain this? Is maybe instantaneous part only approximation, or?
 
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Carlip http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9909087
wrote about how speed of planet compensates (centralise force) so that planet behaves similarly that gravitational interaction is instantenous. But how this connect with Feynman's instantenous force?
 
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It dependas how you formulate the theory.

In high energy physics you insist on explicit covariante and chose a covariant gauge. In this gauge scattering processes are "easy", whereas bound states are "hard".

But you can chose a different gauge, e.g. the Coulomb gauge (which is preferred as only in this gauge static charges do not radiate). If you eliminate A°(x) which is unphysical and solve the Gauss law contraint you find a Hamiltonian with the Coulomb term

[tex]V_C = e^2 \int d^2x \int d^3y \frac{\rho(x) \rho(y)}{|x-y|}[/tex]

describing the Coulomb interaction between the fermionic charge density operators.

I hope this makes it clear that QED contains ordinary electrostatic interaction as well. It's only in certain gauges that this isn't obvious.
 
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There have been plentiful of articles in the "American Journal of Physics" explaining how the instantaneous Coulombic part is modified by the photonic part so as to yield a retarded interaction.
 

Related to Attraction between two charges in QED

1. What is the fundamental force responsible for the attraction between two charges in QED?

The fundamental force responsible for the attraction between two charges in QED is the electromagnetic force. This force is mediated by the exchange of virtual photons between the charges.

2. How does the strength of the attraction between two charges in QED depend on their distance?

The strength of the attraction between two charges in QED is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. This is known as Coulomb's law.

3. Can the attraction between two charges in QED be shielded or canceled out?

Yes, the attraction between two charges in QED can be shielded or canceled out by placing an intermediate charge between them. This is known as screening or shielding.

4. Does the attraction between two charges in QED change if one of the charges is moving?

Yes, the attraction between two charges in QED changes if one of the charges is moving. This is due to relativistic effects and is described by the laws of special relativity.

5. How does the attraction between two charges in QED differ from the attraction between two masses in general relativity?

The attraction between two charges in QED is described by quantum mechanics, while the attraction between two masses in general relativity is described by classical mechanics. Additionally, the electromagnetic force is much stronger than the gravitational force, resulting in different behaviors between the two types of interactions.

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